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	11-06-2002 04:00									#2
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infogrames note on this beta patch

quote: Due to the extensive changes of this patch, we are conducting this open beta to avoid delaying the release of the patch for an inordinate length of time, and we appreciate your participation in this process. By downloading this software, you agree to participate in the open beta for the Civilization 3 patch. To participate, we simply need you to email all bugs you find to the following address: macsofttitles@mac.com Please note that this software is in "beta" and is unsupported by Infogrames Technical Support until such time as the patch is finalized. We cannot guarantee its stability, and you may encounter unexpected behavior; finding this unexpected behavior is the purpose of this exercise. Please help us by reporting any and all bugs you encounter to the address listed above. Please Note: Requests sent to Infogrames Technical Support will be deleted without reply until such time as the patch is finalized. Thanks and have fun!

	22-06-2002 02:02									#5
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What bugs are there in Mac 1.21f??

In my first game with it, once I got my Golden Age, I no longer have had to pay for any Unit Costs.

Golden Age while still despot. No unit costs after transition to Monarchy, either.

	22-06-2002 04:44									#6
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Jaybe:

Heh. If it weren't so unbalancing, that'd be a nice "bug" to keep for the human player. But what are the odds it also affects the AI players?

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	22-06-2002 05:27									#7
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Anyone else have any details to the "no unit costs" bug?
Do you have it (or is it just me)?
When does it start for you? I had mentioned only when I noticed it.

(Yes, I have reported it, as I described it).

Any other bugs?

	22-06-2002 22:45									#8
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The only thing I'm noticing in my latest game is zero war weariness for all civs. I've not reported it yet because I'm not positive. In the game, I've got tons of luxuries and US so I understand why I'm okay. But, after almost a hundred years of war, the Babs appeared to be fighting w/ out any WW. I never say any of their cities burning, and they stayed in democracy (w/ only 3 spice) until I snuffed them out. Is this because their religious? Seems a stretch. Other civs have been fighting each other as well and all stayed in democracy. My only clue to anarchy of course is the burning city which I never saw a single one.

Other blips are units "hiccup" (sort of jump into the next tile) while moving (say through stack movement) and sound volumes not being saved in preferences (everything else is).

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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy ... Other blips are units "hiccup" (sort of jump into the next tile) while moving (say through stack movement) ...

The visual "hiccup" occurs as a unit moves between the left edge and right edge of the map (the horizontal wrap-around). If that is what you are referring to, it also occurs in the Windows version.

	24-06-2002 21:52									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe The visual "hiccup" occurs as a unit moves between the left edge and right edge of the map (the horizontal wrap-around). If that is what you are referring to, it also occurs in the Windows version.

I don't believe so. It occurs if I order a stack of, say, 12 south for, say, 5-7 tiles. I notice it anytime a unit is moving on orders, fairly frequently.

	25-06-2002 09:13									#11
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I started another 1.21f Open Beta game to try to confirm that 'no units cost' bug starts during a Golden Age. Didn't start on the first turn, but did shortly after my Golden Age start.

Another bug: Enemy unit moved onto my only iron source and I could still initiate Swordsman production on my following turn.

I have reported these findings.

	25-06-2002 17:36									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe Another bug: Enemy unit moved onto my only iron source and I could still initiate Swordsman production on my following turn. I have reported these findings.

May be a stupid question (I know you're an experienced player.), but do you have more than one resource of iron? Have you conquered a city built on iron? Just a thought.

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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy May be a stupid question (I know you're an experienced player.), but do you have more than one resource of iron? Have you conquered a city built on iron? Just a thought.

DOH! No, I don't remember checking for that.
OTOH, the next turn they pillaged the road on the iron resource (on a mountain), and 'poof', it was NLA.

	30-06-2002 21:41									#14
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I have since found that it isn't my Golden Age that triggers the Unit Cost bug.

Has anyone come up with other apparent bugs?

	02-07-2002 18:53									#15
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Current game w/ France in Republic, no free units. I've yet to reach my GA.