10-06-2002 16:13									#1
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Hi all,

Just found this site, its a while since i played a PBEM and am looking for a game of Xfire if there are any going.

I can get turns done pretty quick but cant guarantee them everyday, though other times I can bounce them off several a day.

Please let me know if there any going.

	11-06-2002 22:38									#2
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Sure, Im up for a good e-mail game. Just post again and we can set a date and agree on rules.
Anybody else want in on this?

	12-06-2002 00:25									#3
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Sure, Im in

	12-06-2002 13:00									#4
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Well ... thats 3 of us

Best if someone else ssets the game up, I have not done this for a while, as for rules, I am easy.

Just dont use any jargon when explaining them ok, cos I am bound to miss something!

Look forward to it starting when we have enough players.

	12-06-2002 14:49									#5
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Count me in too.

4 people should be enough for a decent game. Any more than that and the turns tend to get rather slow.

	12-06-2002 15:09									#6
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Hi,

I'm in!

If anyone is interested I was thinking of starting World
War 4!

That would be SMACX rules, Earth map (the good one)
advanced start, Iron Man. That means you get four or so bases plus a fair number of units at the start.

Basically the plot is that it's the far future, two alien races have invaded earth and five factions remain, small but developed a little but not much. Essentially they're what's left of what were once great nations. The aliens are on the back foot though due to not getting on with the flu' virus but are fighting back.

We play the factions, AI plays the aliens.

Interested?

Zulu

	12-06-2002 17:47									#7
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Sounds fine to me....

Just let me know when we ready to go..

	12-06-2002 18:45									#8
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Sounds good.
I´ll take hive if that´s ok.

	12-06-2002 19:30									#9
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Excellent.

Detailed rules are as follows:

All Victories allowed except Co-operative. There
can be only one Blofeld!

Do or Die.

Spoils of War.

Research will be precise, not blind. You are in control.

World Map Visible. Hey we all know what the world looks like anyway, don't we?

Time Warp. To give everybody a step up and speed the start. You usually start with three or four bases and a dozen or so units.

Iron Man.

Level is Librarian

Any Factions Allowed except Alien which will be played by the AI.

So far the setup is:

Pirates - Zulu
Phobos - Cult
Chet - Undeclared
Archaic - Undeclared
EZRhino - Undeclared

Those who are undeclared have 48 hours to decide faction. If you don't wnat to play or don't respond then
the invite will go out to others or the faction will be also set to AI.

Everyone will hold their own passwords so please no-one drop. Your World needs you.

All other stadard rules apply ie no cheats, no comms before in-game contact and so on.

As soon as all five factiosn are declared World war 4 will begin!

Good luck,

Zulu

	12-06-2002 19:32									#10
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Sorry, minor error, so far factions are as follows:

Pirates - Zulu
Phobos - Hive
Chet - Undeclared
Archaic - Undeclared
EZRhino - Undeclared

	12-06-2002 20:08									#11
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quote: As soon as all five factiosn are declared World war 4 will begin!

So this is not a team game against the aliens? It´s ffa right?

	12-06-2002 21:04									#12
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The aliens are in so the usual rules apply ie if they get to comms their friends Earth is doomed.

But world domination is the objective with all victory conditions in place except cooperative so yeh, its a FFA.

Hey, you can still make pacts and truces though.

So the decision is whether to ally to take out the aliens or just go for it. Hehe!

Story to follow

Zulu

	12-06-2002 21:07									#13
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WORLD WAR 4.

The border troubles between India and Pakistan escalated and it was inevitable that World War 3 broke out. Heck, with curry being as hot as it is in that part of the world this came as no surprise.

Much of the earth was decimated and whole populations destroyed. Instead of nations the concept of factions grew where like minded people collected together under a charismatic leader. A bit like politicians.

At the same times creatures mutated and boils were created. Vast mobile fungae that destroyed beings with their minds. A bit like politicians.

However to add to their problems, for hundreds of years the people of earth had been under observation by not one, but two alien races. That's what all the people had seen when they stood in the Nevada desert looked up and shouted 'Hey look, there's a UFO, erm I seem to be disintegrating'.

The only reason that they had not landed earlier was that they were afraid of the vast nuclear arsenals kept by the superpowers.

But these superpowers no longer existed and so the aliens landed. They had not considered the affects of local bugs though and in particular the flu virus. So after a lot of sneezing and runny noses, thousands of the aliens were rapidly killed leaving only a token force on Earth.

Now things had balanced out the factions were in a position to fight back. But they couldn't agree on what model the Earth should be run. Hey, ho, so World War 4 began.

You take the role of the leader of a faction as you struggle for domination while having to deal with the presence of the two alien races and all those nasty creatures running around. If you fail you will disappear into the past as an ignominious nobody, like Wilfred Simpkin.

If you succeed, you will rule the world like Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar but with a large nuclear arsenal at your disposal rather than rusty old swords and dodgy drainage.

Your world needs you!

	12-06-2002 21:09									#14
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Hey Phobos,

Is your sig referring to Ibiza, that's all I can remember froma a trip there last Summer!

Zulu

	13-06-2002 02:44									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Zulu_Mzulu Everyone will hold their own passwords so please no-one drop. Your World needs you.

I'm not in this game but I would strongly urge you to all deposit your passwords with some neutral third party. If a player disappears, I do not believe there is ANY way to continue the game without the password

	13-06-2002 04:38									#16
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You are right Flubber. In other words, we need a CMN. Interested?

And to answer your question Zulu. No I´m not refering to Ibiza. Never been there (but that will change..) I saw the text on a LP-record with Psy Trance.

	13-06-2002 09:37									#17
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Since I opened up my trap, I would be willing to hold passwords etc-- If you need more let me know-- ( I'm willing . . . just not experienced in game set-up--)

	13-06-2002 12:48									#18
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Well, given the scenario on offer here, I'm afraid I'll have to count myself out. It's not exactly to my tastes.

	13-06-2002 19:36									#19
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It does seem a good idea to have a neutral 3rd party holding passwords in case of drop out....

And as for faction....

Think I might go for the Data Angels....
If that has gone by now then put me down for the University.

Ready and waiting to go..

	13-06-2002 20:14									#20
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Any chance of joining? Sounds a cool game. Let me know!

Thanks

Footpad

	13-06-2002 20:25									#21
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Free Drones Please......

Footpad

	13-06-2002 21:21									#22
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Ok thanks Flubber.

Tell us when you´r ready with the map Zulu so we can get this show on the road (nice line eh? ).

Also, my email is syrad_alien@hotmail.com.

	14-06-2002 00:14									#23
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OK the lineup looks like the following:

Zulu - Pirates
Phobos - Hive
Chet - Data Angels
Footpad - Drones

AI to play two aliens and one other faction unless taken.
Flubber to hold passwords. Many thanks Flubber.
If i can reciprocate, would be happy to.

Game will start some time tomorrow pm.

So that we all have the same information, I'll mail the world map along with the first turn as well as my password to Flubber.

Please can you mail your passwords to Flubber once you've set them.

Zulu

	14-06-2002 00:43									#24
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my email is sharris4141@yahoo.com

	14-06-2002 01:50									#25
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I realized that I am unsure what the game name is . . . Is it WW4 ?? (good name and short)


Also you say "no cheats" but there are a number of practices that people differ on. Is it your intention to follow the Apolyton tourney rules re things like the stockpile energy bug, upgrades in the workshop, crawler upgrades etc ??

I only ask since games I am in differ on these points and any variation is ok as long as EVERYONE knows up front

	14-06-2002 02:29									#26
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I think we should go with the Apolyton tourney rules.
They prevent "cheating" and almost everyone knows about them.
I also think it would be a good idea to post the rules on the turn tracking thread so there wont be any confusion later when the game starts.

	14-06-2002 10:49									#27
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Ahhh... Im back. Sorry guys but a long succesion of parties and other things prevented me from responding more promptly. If I may make two suggestions:
AI level trancend and if there is going to be six human players I do not think allowing aliens would be fair.
I prefer blind tech, but Im flexible.
Ill be Deidruh.
So you gonna host chet??

	14-06-2002 12:38									#28
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WW4 is a good name.

Good point re the rules. There are a good set of rules at
http://www.planetacol.com/rules.html

Probably blasphemy in this forum but these are the rules
I've played in the past.

I'd suggest we play:

B1a, B2a, B3a and B4a in settings.

Clearly there is no CMN, so we're on trust where these things are concerned. Personally if I'm sure there's cheating going on, I just drop and it usually becomes obvious when someone is.

I'm not familiar with the Apolyton tourney rules but if you point me in the right place we can compare and iron out any differences.

Very flexible on all this so any recommendations welcome.

Zulu

	14-06-2002 12:59									#29
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Update:

AI Transcend unless anyone objects.

Prefer directed research but what do others think?

Who's Diedruh?

We have five. Aliens are still in at the mo but again what do others think?

Flubber's going to hold passwords.

We play Apolyton tourney rules.

Start this pm

Zulu

	14-06-2002 17:18									#30
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Sorry, I'm being completely daft. It must be the painkillers I'm on

Currently line-up is:

Zulu - Pirates
Phobos - Hive
Chet - Data Angels
Footpad - Drones
EZRhino - Giaia

AI - Transcend atm

Aliens still in by popular request atm.

Research still directed atm

Tourney Rules

Flubber to hold passwords

Zulu