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Ninot is offline Ninot
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Nov 2001
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Ok, I know we have the imperialists, who put expansion high on their priorities. Do we have any other political parties?

And for those who consider themselves neutral, would any and all parties please state why us neuts would be better off in your party, or atleast allied with it?

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AAACC3:
me
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anyone else who does not want a constitution to suck the fun out of the game like a leech!

parties thread in the civ2 game: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=49056

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Once the whole constitution debate is over, the Imperialists and the AAACC3 party are merging (after all, once the constitution issue is settled, what other agendas are there for such a party ).

As many people already know, the Imperialists focus upon expansion, and the increased power and wealth that comes with it. Expansion is not always gained through war, and other things such as science and culture can also be important factors. Above all else however, the goal is to become supreme.

There are numerious reasons to join the Imperialists. The party is a high-profile one, involved in elections, setting up polls, and campaigning for various things to be done. It's not a 'sit-around' party, but one that's active, and seeks to get things done. If you want an active and supportive party and have similar view, I suggest joining the Imperialists.

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Apr 2001
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I currently stay out of any groupings, for the risk of actually be given a position, which I won't be able to handle, at least not during the early summer. I'll report back when I fell I'll join anything (or start my own )

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Originally posted by civman2000
anyone else who does not want a constitution to suck the fun out of the game like a leech!


Could someone please tell me (in short) what that means. I can't seem to find any threads telling me what that is!?!

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Nov 2000
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I don't think even the AAACC know what it stands for

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Could someone please tell me (in short) what that means. I can't seem to find any threads telling me what that is!?!

Just something 'anti-constitution' I think. That's all I remember at least.

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See what I mean

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Originally posted by Trip
Once the whole constitution debate is over, the Imperialists and the AAACC3 party are merging (after all, once the constitution issue is settled, what other agendas are there for such a party ).

As many people already know, the Imperialists focus upon expansion, and the increased power and wealth that comes with it. Expansion is not always gained through war, and other things such as science and culture can also be important factors. Above all else however, the goal is to become supreme.

There are numerious reasons to join the Imperialists. The party is a high-profile one, involved in elections, setting up polls, and campaigning for various things to be done. It's not a 'sit-around' party, but one that's active, and seeks to get things done. If you want an active and supportive party and have similar view, I suggest joining the Imperialists.


That sounds about right, put me down as member :

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Great! Glad to get you onboard!

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gargh.

i requested that no political parties form unti they see the suitation our empire is in, but i guess you guys have your own ideas. oh well.

i'll stay out of parties until i can draw up policies/ideologies based on GAME info.

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gargh.

i requested that no political parties form unti they see the suitation our empire is in, but i guess you guys have your own ideas. oh well.

i'll stay out of parties until i can draw up policies/ideologies based on GAME info.


Nothing wrong with stating game intentions though

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Umm, how about the Opposition Party...just opposed in general to the current administraton's party, whatever that may be.

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Well, that view would support a isolationist point of view, since that's the main idea of the Imperialist-AAACC3 party.

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I disagree

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Sodaquistas!!!!

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gargh.

i requested that no political parties form unti they see the suitation our empire is in, but i guess you guys have your own ideas. oh well.

i'll stay out of parties until i can draw up policies/ideologies based on GAME info.


Uber I will join your party opposed to parties until the game starts!

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The Unparty lives on...

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I propose the "UNPARTY" party. Our purpose will be to thwart party politics in the Democratic Game. Our motto will be: "Voters of the World, Disunite"!


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Uber I will join your party opposed to parties until the game starts!


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The UNPARTY another one of the roots of all evil!

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Virtus Bellicus

This party will focus on expansion as well, but war will be the key mechanism of expansion. We should look upon all of our neighbors as potential targets. We will focus on cultural and scientific developments as well, for without better technology, we cannot conquer our foes. Science and culture are but tools for our conquests. Large newly conquered cities will be razed to the ground since a revolting city is an untenable defensive position and a drain on productive resources. We replace them with our loyal and productive citizens. We will start wars of conquest as soon as we are in a strategically viable position so as leave our enemies with little time to build up defenses. As soon as Engineering is obtained, camps of workers will be established near frontier cities to facilitate the expeditious production of military units and forward positions. We are opposed to any form of constitution for it will greatly hamper our expansions.

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erm... aznparty why don't you just join the Imperial party or the AAACC3. most of your ideas are shared by us.

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So you saying the Imperial party and the AAACC3 are similar and I should join one at random? or that there are parts from each party that agrees with what I think?

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yeah...almost all of them...i prefer being a bit less agressive but that's not very important

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uh, we're working on a merger...

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which will most likely happen.

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I kind of like the UNPARTY now that its out there, but if I trully beleive in their ideals, then I guess I can't join them until after the game starts. And once the game starts, then I guess I can't join them since they'll have no agenda left.

I can't start the Opposition Party yet, since there's no party in power to oppose.

Quite a dilemna.

Maybe, the Opposition Party can take root in the UNPARTY once the game starts, and there's a party to oppose.

Other possible names for the Opposition Party are...

Devil's Advocate Party (DAP)
The Say No Action Party (SNAP)
Society To Oppose Politics (STOP)

We could actually develop an agenda and everything.

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Mar 2002
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How about the good ol' Republican party?

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When I play I never go to war before I get tank. I just expand like crazy in the start and build alot cultural stuff in the border cities, so I can take over some of the other cis cities that way.
I try to be good friends with the other civs and trade alot with them. If somone attack me I usualy is able to hold them back, becourse I have a strong defence. (And soem good alies)
Later in the game I am usualy pretty big using this strategy, and then I go to mobilization and take out some of the smaller civs, and live happily ever after :-)

But I am not sure who else usually use this strategy?

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I like that strategy too, its nice when a city revolts against its original civ to join yours due to the culture. The culture thing is also very important because its also great to have one of your cities that was captured by the enemy revolt against them and rejoin your civ, especially mid-war. But whether I use this strategy depends on the civ I start with. Something about having the Immortals as Persia, that makes me want to try an pick fights early on. The Immortals provide a good early offensive weapon.

 
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