10-06-2002 23:31									#1
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Okay, I came up with an idea for those of you who say that if we restrict access to the savegame file, then we can create a 'Reporter' office. He would explain and lay out the current situation in as much detail as possible, without overlapping his job with other's task to report information.

This poll will be closed Thursday, June 13th. The results will be made official then.

Last edited by Trip on 11-06-2002 at 04:17

	10-06-2002 23:35									#2
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This will be different from the Historian position, right?

	10-06-2002 23:38									#3
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Yes. The Historian is more of a propaganda minister. He records what occurs, i.e. "The Great Battle of Lazeno was a heroic fight for our country, but the barbarians managed to win after swindling our general with dirty tricks."

The Reporter would give information on basic occurances of the game, post screenshots, etc. A very detailed look at what has happened. Most likely a pretty demanding position, but one with a lot of prestige as well.

	10-06-2002 23:47									#4
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The Reporter should be ineligible for other political positions (for at least two terms after retiring as Reporter) so that there is no risk of them abusing their powerful position for political gain.

We don't want the Reporter reporting things in a way that makes it into a campaign for some other position.

	11-06-2002 00:48									#5
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Actually it would be cool if there was a little webpage sortof 'world newspaper' for the game. When a game event happens (like a revolution) the people in charge of the news could get creative about the causes of the revolution perhaps tieing in civil disorders, policies of the government toward foreign nationals etc.

	11-06-2002 00:51									#6
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It's a good idea, however, I think that the ministers neede the save anyway.

	11-06-2002 01:08									#7
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Gramphos, would you remove the last option on the poll? It has no votes so far, and it may end up skewing things, as punkbass said. Now that I think of, yes/no polls would be much better.

	11-06-2002 01:13									#8
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perhaps limit the posting of SAV files to when our CIV advances an era. This saves (geddit) confusion/multiple posting - and although I am happy in my citizen status, would like the opportunity to ---- it up in the privacy of my own home at a later date.

	11-06-2002 01:13									#9
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I can't I'm not a mod here. I'll call for Ming.

	11-06-2002 01:13									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos I can't I'm not a mod here. I'll call for Ming.

Okay, sorry/thanks.

	11-06-2002 01:16									#11
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He seems to be away... edit your first post and tell not to vote for that option. And hope Ming gets back before anyone votes.

	11-06-2002 01:33									#12
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Yea, this sounds like a pretty good compromise.

	11-06-2002 01:46									#13
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Okay, you can remove that red text now.

	11-06-2002 02:07									#14
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Ming's back apparently.

	11-06-2002 02:31									#15
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I like the reporter idea, but we can also do it the same way as in the civ2 demo where the president does this job. ( and a good one I must say )

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=52336

	11-06-2002 02:38									#16
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The president already has a lot to do. Maybe make it the job of the VP. That post is already really just a euphamism for poller.

	11-06-2002 02:45									#17
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The president is the one that physicly plays the game and therefore is the only one with all the info on what happens every turn.

	11-06-2002 02:51									#18
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Well, yes atawa. That is a point I have noted before. The reporter would be (in the case of only the Ministers getting the save) a neutral that the ppl trusted (more than the Prez?) to keep the Ministers honest. I really see no need for one - why can't we trust the Ministers, most of us will be one sooner or later, and what motivation do they have for corruption - there are no sluch funds or Crown Jewels to get away with - but if it makes those who prefer someone watching the Ministers, I support it as a compromise between the Ministers having the save and everyone having the save.

	11-06-2002 03:37									#19
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i was already planning to do this if you look in one of my posts, and i'm also running for historian. I was gunna create systems and names for battles. Of course, like in real life i give out the 'propaganda story' first, and that reporter one a little after. This will all be contained in one thread, and also in a backup Notepad/MSword file that i will upload every so often for people to take a look at, inclueding codes for certain militery acerances!

I'd also try to have interveiws with Generals/militery advisors who have been voted out of power, or a certain period of time after a war, or world crisis.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=52498

	11-06-2002 05:49									#20
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I thought the reporter would be a guy who "summed up" the game to a certain point, noticing the important parts.

	11-06-2002 06:59									#21
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your two options don't allow a simple NO, the debate of wether or not a give access to the .sav file is elswhere in the forum.

	11-06-2002 07:00									#22
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Ahhhh, but read the question. I'm relating it to a very particular situation, if you'll notice.

	11-06-2002 07:06									#23
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Yes but people will vote yes expecting for this position to available, when they'll have to go through another poll to decide that.

BTW I liked your Iron Cross better

	11-06-2002 07:07									#24
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Oh well, no one will lose sleep over it.

Chrono Trigger owns you all, and don't even deny it.

	11-06-2002 07:14									#25
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who?

	11-06-2002 07:22									#26
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Mmmmmhmmm, nevermind.

	11-06-2002 18:13									#27
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Okay folks, at this rate, alomost 80% of people support the creation of a Reporter in exchange for withholding the save file. If things keep up at this rate, I think we'll have to listen to something like this. None of the options has even half of this amount.

	11-06-2002 18:25									#28
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I think reporting is the responsibility of the ministers ala Civ2 Demo. A seperate post is unnecessary an audit committee might be useful; a select group who would have access to the save file; assuming we don't give it to everyone.

	11-06-2002 19:27									#29
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I like it too but I'm still confused. I'm not exactly sure what the difference is between reporter and historian. according to HaziaDavampire, he doesn't see the difference.

I do think reporting/historian is a big job. ministers should post screenshots and write small briefings.
The reporter should compile these into something easy to understand for citizens (should be a good organizer).

The historian makes a fun story out of it (should be creative).

Or switch the roles. It doesn't matter, I just think we should differentiate between the two.

	11-06-2002 22:38									#30
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I can't vote. I don't think we should have access to the file, but I also don't think we should create this Reporter thing. The reporter would make the ministers' reports useless.