11-06-2002 03:24									#1
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I have not seen anyone post anything about this idea, so forgive me if someone has. (After all, I certainly have not read all of the posts here.)

Anyway, what about having the option to play as a barbarian tribe. Or, perhaps, as a sort of overseer of all the barbarian tribes?

I realize this would probably be difficult to do since playing the barbarians would be much different. (You wouldn't have cities to manage (just camps) and no research and such...Just a bloodthirsty horde of
warmongers.

The game would play much different if you chose to play as the barbarians, and many things would have to be worked out such as how do they advance at all and so forth...but it could be an interesting change of pace.

And of course I guess the only victory allowed would be to destroy as many civs as possible. Perhaps a ranking as to how many cities your barbarians were able to detroy before you got wiped out...

	11-06-2002 04:00									#2
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Don't really like the idea. Currently, the system only allows for there to be two units at the barbarian's disposal. By default those are warriors and horsemen.

If however, in the XP, Firaxis decided to make barbarian-specific units (eg. Huskarls to replace warriors or something), it might be marginally better. But it still wouldn't be too fun.

I'd rather be a civilization and be able to hire barbarian units as mercenaries, especially if there are barbarian-specific units, that would naturally have higher attack/speed than normal.

	11-06-2002 04:14									#3
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That's interesting...I hadn't thought of that. Hiring them as mercenaries is indeed an interesting twist.

I guess playing as barbarians would not be a long game, but more of a quick little game of action.

Like, when you say that there are only 2 units per tribe, well if you controlled all barbarian tribes then you would have a decent force to mass and rampage with.

Like I said, it's just a thought for a twist on the typical civ game for a quickie diversion in the civ universe. "You control the babrbarian tribes, you have nothing, you know nothing, here are some units to try to wipe out as many cities as possible."

And, perhaps after you ransacked cities and reached a certain amount of stolen gold, you can bribe some more advanced units from other civs to join you.

i dont know.

	11-06-2002 04:15									#4
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oh sorry, you meant 2 units at their disposal, not per tribe... sorry

	11-06-2002 05:00									#5
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You can just rename a Civ to be the Barbarians.

	11-06-2002 14:27									#6
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quote: Originally posted by vee4473 I have not seen anyone post anything about this idea, so forgive me if someone has. (After all, I certainly have not read all of the posts here.) Anyway, what about having the option to play as a barbarian tribe. Or, perhaps, as a sort of overseer of all the barbarian tribes?

Yes, it's an old suggestion.

For example, I did it myself a year ago: please feel free to check it on the archived thread Let me play the dark civ:barbarians.

The debate was a bit diverted to a different area, but it was interesting.

BTW I feel the current "encampment" concept better than old Civ II "barbarians from nowhere", still I think that Firaxis didn't use the concept to its full potential.

	11-06-2002 15:50									#7
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I think it would be nice if one could in mulitplyaer (PtW that is) join in for a quick game as a barbarian tribe or two. That would allow short games for busy people.

	11-06-2002 20:59									#8
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Any civ not as civilized as yours is a barbarian civ...
thus other civs allready think of you as a barbarian

	12-06-2002 00:38									#9
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I liked the way barbarians used to be able to capture a city and function rather like another AI player. Was this in Civ 2?

In Civ 3 barbarians seem to be much more of a random event, like disease.

	12-06-2002 05:19									#10
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Yes,

I was remembering recently how barbarians in civ2 could actually capture a city.

This is not the case in civ3,(at least I have never seen it happen).

Barbarians now are much more of a way to just lose gold. You don't have to worry about losing a city to them, just gold.

as far as i have seen

	12-06-2002 13:33									#11
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I remember playing Civ I on earth and discovering that half of the French cities (which controlled South America) were captured by Barbarians.

And no, Barbarians can't capture cities in Civ III (I believe I read in the manual or in the civiliopedia).

	12-06-2002 17:45									#12
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I consider myself a Barbarian...


Seriously though, by definition, Barbarians can not control cities. They are barbaric. In essences, they are nomadic. Any type of social control would be civilized and hence, not barbaric.

	12-06-2002 19:02									#13
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For this to be funny, I think more units should be available to the barbarians. What if, after winning a battle against a certain unit, barbarian camps could then produce that particular kind of unit for a limited period of time (the captured weapons eventually run out - the barbarians can only produce the most crude, primitive weapons themselves).

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	12-06-2002 19:34									#14
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This might be fun idea for multiplayer. One of the players acts as the barbarian overlord and constantly harrasses the rest of the players. Punishes them for leaving cities poorly defended or lone settlers, etc...

	13-06-2002 01:34									#15
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hi ,

default level for tha AI ; deity , basic barb unit ; rifleman , advanced ; infantry , sea unit ; destroyer , ......

have a nice day

	13-06-2002 04:44									#16
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what?