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Kropotkin is offline Kropotkin
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I've never seen Imran so happy about the opportunity to collect taxes.

Orange: It was a troll!!!!!

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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I've never seen Imran so happy about the opportunity to collect taxes.


Wouldn't you be?

moomin is offline moomin
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No, really. It's so damn hot in my room (damn fascist residential company). Was about to write a serious post but couldn't focus my few lingering thoughts on to the screen.


It's hot, is it, eh?. And I'm sure your sticky little fingers got so caught up in lingering elsewhere at the thought of whores it was all you could to to punch out a troll with your nose banging at the keyboard...

Kropotkin is offline Kropotkin
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Nah, it's to hot even for that I'm affraid...

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I'm for legalizing not because it is a "victimless" crime now but to reduce the victimization. Lots of men buy sex and lots of women are "willing" to sell it whether out of greed, drug problems, abuse etc. Currently its my understanding that most prostitutes face deplorable lives and that many are forced into the lifestyle. So I can't say I think its a good thing BUT making it legal allows there to be some governmental control on the abuses and takes it out of the sole control of criminal elements. If it were legalized we could at least have some assurance that the sex workers would have adequate access to health care/ contraceptions and would make it much less likely that a woman would be "forced" into the trade ( I leave aside the question of whether a woman who enters prostitution out of bleak economic necessity . . . probably the vast majority . . . are actually forced by their circumstances . .

Flubber is offline Flubber
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Should prostitution be legalized? It is in Nevada and the Netherlands, why not everywhere?

...or is the moral state of Nevada and the Netherlands something to be avoided?



Well, prostitution itself is legal in Canada as well. You can call an escort service and have them come to your hotel, explicitly arrange sex for money and you will have broken zero Canadian laws . .

But there are a number of things that ARE illegal

1. communicating for the purpose of prostitution in a public place -- essentially makes street prostitution illegal. Note that a public place specifically includes a motor vehicle so talking "business" in the car is still illegal

2. being found in or running a common bawdy house-- some "massage parlours" get busted on this occassionally

3. Procuring a prostitue-- sometimes they try to nail the agencies with this one

4. " Living off the avails of prostitution"-- designed to get pimps as it does not apply to a prostitute benefitting from her own work


But at the end of the day, prostitution itself is not illegal. You could tell a cop that you had a full blown orgy with 3 girls and tell him exactly what you paid and there is nothing to charge you with as long as you are careful to keep all communications for the purpose either over the phone or inside your own home or hotel room

red_jon is offline red_jon
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I've been in a brothel in Africa. It's a bar in the day. Filthy place

Dr Strangelove is offline Dr Strangelove
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
It's another thing that would cut down on violent crimes and the spread of disease.
Yes, make it legal, and zoned.


How does prostitution prevent the spread of disease? If anything it spreads disease. It's not feasible to institute adequate disease monitoring, Are you going to test them daily, or make the use of condoms mandatory? If the latter, you'll need to come up with some sort of certification process that ensures that the condoms won't disintegrate when used.

tandeetaylor is offline tandeetaylor
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It is in Nevada....


As a resident of the state of Nevada, I must protest. Prostitution is NOT legal in Las Vegas OR Reno. As far as I know, it is legal in one county, some thirty to sixty miles away from Las Vegas.


But as to your question, I think that women (and men for that matter) have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies, and it is not the business of the government. However, people do have a right to say whether they want it in their neighborhoods, and it should have borders of legality. Women strip to give others sexual pleasure. If we want to be the moral police, we might as well ban that too.

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Bring on da whores!

I'm all for legalizing prostitution, but do you guys *really* want unionized hookers?

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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Tired of ads?

Boris: afraid they'll go on strike?

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LMAO@Imran

Krop: eh, sorry bud. I've said it before and I'll say it again, sometimes it's very difficult to tell when someone is being serious or joking on the internet Thank god for smileys

SlowwHand is offline SlowwHand
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As long as phone sex is legal, some of you guys will be fine.

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Should prostitution be legalized? It is in Nevada and the Netherlands, why not everywhere?

...or is the moral state of Nevada and the Netherlands something to be avoided?


It's also legal in Aussie-land...

Ned is offline Ned
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I think the issue is what do you mean by "legalize?" If it means having whores openly parading in residential neighborhoods, then I'm against it. If it means streetwalkers parading anywhere that I, my wife or my kids would normally go, I'm against it. If it means advertising for their services in our newspapers, on TV or in another media of general circulation, then I'm against it.

With the above understanding, decriminalization and regulation might be acceptable. I would I not call it legalization because "legal" implies certain rights -- for example to parade openly in residential neighborhoods that I would hope we are all against.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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So you are against it because of NIMBY?

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for example to parade openly in residential neighborhoods that I would hope we are all against.


Why? We all don't have YOUR morals. You should stop assuming that. I have no problem with prostitutes openly selling their services in residential neighborhoods. Of course, if it were legal, they'd probably confine it to the commerical sector, because they are selling something.

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I would like somebody from the Netherlands to comment on the overall quality of life of these "legal" prostitutes. Are they exploited? Are they safe? Do they make a good living? What is their socio-economic status? Just curious before I decide.

I couldn't imagine something like this working in US big cities because of associated guns, drugs, and violence.

Dave

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If the choice is made between two consenting adults, why not?

Besies, it's not like the state could stop it.

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So you are against it because of NIMBY?

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for example to parade openly in residential neighborhoods that I would hope we are all against.


Why? We all don't have YOUR morals. You should stop assuming that. I have no problem with prostitutes openly selling their services in residential neighborhoods. Of course, if it were legal, they'd probably confine it to the commerical sector, because they are selling something.


Yeah, sure!

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Currently its my understanding that most prostitutes face deplorable lives and that many are forced into the lifestyle.


This is one comment I was hoping to come across in this thread.

It seems that too often, discussions about the issues of prostitution is carried out under the presumption that the prostitutes themselves enjoy what they do.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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This is one comment I was hoping to come across in this thread.

It seems that too often, discussions about the issues of prostitution is carried out under the presumption that the prostitutes themselves enjoy what they do.


Some do, some don't.

The 95 cent crackwhore who goes down on her neighbors so she can pay for her next hit? Yeah, she probably doesn't like it.

The street walker who gets beat by her pimp? Ok, sure.

But there is an entire strata of escorts and high-priced call girls who make a lot of money and some really enjoy what they do.

Besides, were it legal and regulated, organizing the industry could protect them from much of what is bad for the prostitutes, such as abusive pimps, abusive clients, etc.

Hell, I am hating my job lately, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal...wait a sec...

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Exactly, Boris --- some do, some do not enjoy it.

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I say keep it legal. If its legal, then conditions for the girls doing said service will be better than if it is illegal. Also by making it legal, any brothels or what-have-you can be zoned by the council on where they can set up business, rather than criminals setting one up wherever they can.
Anyone who uses the service understands there are risks involved, but there would be less risks having the gov. in charge rather than criminals.

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I think the issue is what do you mean by "legalize?" If it means having whores openly parading in residential neighborhoods, then I'm against it. If it means streetwalkers parading anywhere that I, my wife or my kids would normally go, I'm against it. If it means advertising for their services in our newspapers, on TV or in another media of general circulation, then I'm against it.


In Australia, none of that is allowed, except perhaps for little text advertisements in the back of newspapers/magazines in the love section. I'm not 100% sure as I don't read them.

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I'm not 100% sure as I don't read them.


Yeah -- sure you don't read them -- uh-huh.

chrono353 is offline chrono353
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sorry but i have to say somthing about this. its legal in holland and pimps still run the show. in fact holland is the biggest importer of albanian and eastern europeans in europe next to germany. sorry i dont buy the legalize excuse.

but i personally wouldnt mind it being legal

Ecthy is offline Ecthy
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Let me say it once again, here and now: we do not import those girls, prostitutes.

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In france prostitution isn't illegal. But prostitue haven't the right to lure men on the street.

Providing beds for prostitution is illegal.

Protecting girls is illegal.

Be paid for having sex, or pay for sex is legal.

I think it will be a good idea, that french gouvernment vote for the legalization of whore house.

It's far healthier than prostitute walking in the street luring men without control and protection of the society.

Roland is offline Roland
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"If it means advertising for their services in our newspapers, on TV or in another media of general circulation, then I'm against it."



Remind me to send you a clip from our local newspaper....

Anyway, brothels are legal here, streetwalking only in some areas. There's a brothel about maybe 150 meters from my appartment, and I didn't even realize it until recently... (meaning that I saw the weird lighting above the door, not what you think )

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I believe there is more danger in ppl meeting in a bar and getting together for casual sex than there is with men visiting a regulated bordello.
Prostitution is legal in Victoria. The women work out of brothels, must be health checked and blood tested every month and MUST practice safe sex at ALL times.They MUST also be drug free. The same applies with Escorts I believe. If it was made illegal it would force the prostitutes onto the streets.
I am sure men know the rules when the visit such places. When they are half tanked and pick up a chick in a bar, they are not thinking about the safety issues. They risk thier lives for a few minutes pleasure.

Here is an example of a Victorian Bordello.
http://www.gotham-city.com.au

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I've never seen the harm. If a girl wants to exploit her body and use it as a semen receptacle for strangers, its her choice.

 
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