12-06-2002 18:41									#1
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Okay, I may make some more polls out of this, but I need to make a regular thread discussion first.

First off, there were no canidates for Minister of Finances () so I didn't bother to make a poll yet. I have a few options as far as that goes. If we have anyone who would like to be a canidate, say so here, then we can start another election up. If not, then we can either give the powers to others that already exist, or my idea that I came up with last night, to combine the Minister of Trade and the Minister of Fincances, into the "Minister of the Economy'. I was going to make a poll for this, but due to the fact that people have already voted to have a Minister of Finances, then if anyone steps up, we'll have to have an election because things have already been set up.

Another thing I'd like to address is the Reporter position I proposed. There was a very large number of people who wanted it, and I believe this warrants another election for that position. Anyone who cares to run for this position, reply to this thread as well. Keep in mind, this is a very important position, as it lays claim to the majority of relations between the administration and the regular public. This holds a lot of responsibility, but also a lot of prestige and importance. If no one wants to take this position, then it will be assumed by the Vice-President.

If people step up for these positions by 1700 GMT Saturday, then I'll make elections for them then. If not, then we'll use whichever one of my other proposals is most popular.

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	12-06-2002 18:48									#2
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Well, I say that if we don't get a Minister of Finances this term, maybe we'll next term (when there is more money to play with).

So, I think that we shall keep the position open, and in case an office is empty for a term the duties of that office has to be handled by the other ministers, and governmental staff. For Finances it is, as you say easiy to give the Trade Advisor the duties.

	12-06-2002 18:51									#3
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I'll run for it...if i win for science i'll drop it but if i lose i'll take the job (assuming i beat the banana)

	12-06-2002 18:55									#4
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quote: Originally posted by civman2000 I'll run for it...if i win for science i'll drop it but if i lose i'll take the job (assuming i beat the banana)

Which one? Minister of Finances?

	12-06-2002 18:58									#5
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yeah, finance

	12-06-2002 20:04									#6
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Maybe a minister of finance would be redundant with the functions of the prez : the prez decides who gets what budget. I think the trade minister or the city planner should be responsible for a steady cash flow.
Overall, as a trade minister wannabee, I wouldn't mint the appearance of the "ministry of economy", provided it won't be the most important.

	12-06-2002 20:07									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Maybe a minister of finance would be redundant with the functions of the prez : the prez decides who gets what budget.

Yes, the ministers advice the president on how to spend the nations money and resources, but its up to the president to make the final call.

But a finance minister could be a good advisor to the president on money issues as different ministers will want to use the money on different goals.

	12-06-2002 20:27									#8
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Should we make another poll, to destroy the Department of Finances instead then?

	12-06-2002 20:44									#9
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I'll run for finance minister

	12-06-2002 21:09									#10
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It seems that Civman2000 will run for it too, if he's beaten. I think we should hold regular elections for miniser of finance next month, along with other elections.
In the meantime, I think my solution is the way to go, as there won't be much money to manage anyway.

	12-06-2002 22:12									#11
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Why not get it over with now. People voted for it, so we have to give it to them. We already have 2 canidates, and there's still another 4 days more for them to sign up. I'll make another Financial Minister election thread on Saturday, 06/14. Good luck to all those who wish to participate.

	13-06-2002 00:10									#12
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Yes, I would run for Finance Minister, too.

	13-06-2002 02:09									#13
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By the way Siro anounced his candicacy for the reporter unit.

So Right now.
Finance Minister:
jdjdjd
atawa
civman2000

Reporter:
Siro (not his full name which I can't remember)

	13-06-2002 03:12									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard Reporter: Siro (not his full name which I can't remember)

Well, get him in here quick. I'd like to talk with him first. The Reporter position is probably more important than any of the others, and I want to make sure the canidates are qualified for it.
Also, if you talk to him (or anyone else), remind him that it takes a lot of dedication as well. Every time a turn is conducted, he'll have to give a fairly detailed report of what occurred, screenshots, etc. While playing the game, I'll provide screenshots of the action that can't be obtained without actually having played it though.

And thanks to the entire community here! I'm glad we're getting things rolling so nicely fairly quickly. In many cases, projects like this get bogged down in the first week with so much stuff, but so far we've been able to handle all of it and organize it, so things are running smoothly.

	13-06-2002 03:15									#15
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I'll PM him.

	13-06-2002 03:21									#16
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Okay thanks! See if you can get him in the chatroom later.

	13-06-2002 03:52									#17
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Hello

I'm committed to this job. And I can prove valuable experience as a reporter and a newspaper editor

And a Civ player

Only one thing. Two actually.

1) How often will I be required to report? I imagine every turn - how often will turns occur?

If it's every day, then I can't be a reporter. At least not the sole one.

2) Can I also make silly / joking stuff? You know, like there were in the Civilization I Newspaper *drifts in memories*

	13-06-2002 03:55									#18
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Shouldn't Finance be handled by Trade or City Planner? Trade because they have a lot to do with money; City Planner because that's the closest we have to a Minister of the Interior.

	13-06-2002 04:07									#19
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quote: 2) Can I also make silly / joking stuff? You know, like there were in the Civilization I Newspaper *drifts in memories*

Of course. Thats only my opinion. I don't think there is an official opinion on this. It would be part of your election platform.

	13-06-2002 04:08									#20
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yep it should, but the majority disagreed...

	13-06-2002 04:53									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov I'm committed to this job. And I can prove valuable experience as a reporter and a newspaper editor

Great! Glad to hear it!

quote: And a Civ player

Could be important.

quote: Only one thing. Two actually.

Mmmmkay.

quote: 1) How often will I be required to report? I imagine every turn - how often will turns occur? If it's every day, then I can't be a reporter. At least not the sole one.

Could be. But remember, for the first month, there won't really be much to report. "As our great leader moved 2 workers in position this year... adjusted the budget, and built a new Warrior..." and that's it. I fear for the Reporter later on, but I suppose things will slow down for the entire game, so it will be alright.

quote: 2) Can I also make silly / joking stuff? You know, like there were in the Civilization I Newspaper *drifts in memories*

Sure, just make sure you present all of the info accurately (for example, don't say "Our country took a huge cut in taxes", when it was only lowered by 10%). Other than being accurate and complete, you can do what you like.

	13-06-2002 05:18									#22
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So when well the etra POLLs start?

	13-06-2002 06:10									#23
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As two candidates for finance ministry are in compettion for other posts, I'd say we wait for the current polls to end.
This delay will maybe let us find a competitor to Sirotnikov, and the reporter election will be more interesting than another "banana" election.

	13-06-2002 07:05									#24
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Spiffor - didn't you hear of the "strawberry" option

I'm not sure if there should be necessarily competition.

As I see it - it's a rather large task, which could be shared by more than one person.

	13-06-2002 07:49									#25
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Well, if you need someone to run against, I'll run. But I don't want to win. Just help. (Well, actually, helping the historian write stories sounds like more fun but this is cool too.)

	13-06-2002 08:01									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos So when well the etra POLLs start?

The final time to submit your canidacy is 1700 GMT on Saturday (06/14). The polls will start later that day.

Competition always breeds success. The more canidates who are willing to work hard the better. Though it appears Sirotnikov's enthusiasm and apparent dedication might be hard to beat. Remember, the Reporter more than anything else is not a popularity contest. It is the link between the 'higher-ups' and the regular people.

	13-06-2002 09:03									#27
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I would love to run for this position. Vote for one of the people to help manage the people. Vote for me!

	13-06-2002 09:26									#28
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Ahhh, good. Many people are going for elections this time. Excellent. Now, as a quick tip for all those who plan on running... be a visible presence! The more you get out, get to know people, and make your views known, the better chance you have of being elected! Prove to the public why you're best for the spot! Individualize yourself! If you have the same platform as another canidate, and sit around picking your nose, then why should anyone vote for you? In other words, be a man of the people, get heard, mingle, whatever. Do what it takes for people to talk about your name, so that when they see you on the ballot, they say "Hey, I know this guy!".

Again, a quick reminder, the spots for the new positions close on Saturday, so if anyone else plans on running, make sure to sign up here by then, so that I'll know to include your name in the election! I don't think Ming is fond of me 'topping' and fixing threads right now.

Okay, enough rambling for now. As always, have fun everyone.

	13-06-2002 11:40									#29
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I would like to announce my candidacy for reporter. Not against Siro but as another news agent. I will not run if I'm the only one.

To avoid the problem of no reporter on a given turn. I believe that the reporters on staff, should split the days/turns amongst themselves; they can of course report on the same turn.

I don't have any prior reporting experience, but I consider myself a rapid high quality spammer when the occasion calls for it. I will also report accurately.

	13-06-2002 20:03									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard I would like to announce my candidacy for reporter. Not against Siro but as another news agent. I will not run if I'm the only one. To avoid the problem of no reporter on a given turn. I believe that the reporters on staff, should split the days/turns amongst themselves; they can of course report on the same turn. I don't have any prior reporting experience, but I consider myself a rapid high quality spammer when the occasion calls for it. I will also report accurately.

Good idea!
Unless we have a massive flood of Reporters (over 4), which I don't see happening, then all those interested in the Reporter position may be placed on a staff, and work out the details themselves. I feel that would be more fair, and allow the distribution of work later on the game, when things get really messy.