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Should the People be able to Impeach an Official?
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| YES: A majority vote (51%) is enough to remove an elected official from office. Anyone may post a poll for impeachment |
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14.04% |
| YES: A 2/3 vote (66%) is enough to remove an elected official from office. Anyone may post a poll for impeachment |
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61.40% |
| YES: But, I feel there are other options we must consider (please post below) |
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1.75% |
| NO: Only a minister or a president can post a poll for someone to be impeached. Once this is done, A majority vote by the people (51%) is enough for it to pass. |
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1.75% |
| NO: Only a minister or a president can post a poll for someone to be impeached. Once this is done, a 2/3 vote (66%) is enough for it to pass. |
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12 |
21.05% |
| NO: Bur, I feel we must consider other options (please post below) |
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0% |
| Total: |
57 voters |
100% |
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Timeline
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Sunshine State, USA
Nov 2000
time: 00:20
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This is an important vote, so it will expire in five days Wednesday 6/19, at 1200 (12pm) Est.
Here is how the poll will be interrupted:
The Yes and No blocks will be tallied, the block with the most votes shall win. The option with the most vosts in the winning block will be the option that we use.
IMPORTANT EDIT
Upon making this poll I realized I have inadvertently discriminated against the "Let's consider other options" choice, by dividing them between the two blocks.
THESE TWO CHOICES WILL BE ADDED TOGETHER AT THE END OF THE POLL, AND IF THEY POSSES MORE VOTES THAN EITHER BLOCK THIS OPTION WILL WIN, AND THE POLL WILL BE RESTARTED TO INCLUDE THE NEW OPTIONS
Sorry for the confusion, but I want to make sure everything is fair as possible 
YES:
- This leaves total power to the people on when they want to get rid of someone up to no good.
NO:
- This leaves more power to the government. With this option people would be required to pettition Ministers or the president, and find someone brave enough to post an impeachment thread.
Remember as always, Think carefully before voting . . .
Last edited by Timeline on 14-06-2002 at 17:48
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Tarquinius
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As long as we don't have something like a Senate, then of course the people have the right to impeach a minister. (As it is usually the task of the Congress)
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Chandragupta
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of a minor tribe of Orcs
Jun 2002
time: 00:20
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Interesting question, impeachement... First, why would a minister or presidenet be put up for impeachment? Barring an affair with Cleopatra or Joan of Arc  there would have to be some grevious cheating or violation of the duties associated with an office.
For example, the president would have to cheat in the saved game or someone would play ahead for any reason. Also, someone could intentionally do something very bad for the Empire (like losing a war and cedeing a wonder or three). It's difficult to embezle (sp.) in this game, so that's out. Something like intentionally leaving artillery where someone could take it would qualify as treason, though I doubt that would happen.
Most things someone could do to deserve impeachement would be very bad for the empire, and the people would know it. We are all intelligent and reasoning human beings and in the terms of this game, somewhere between a senate and a citizenry. Therefore I vote to let the people (power to the settlers!  ) decide impeachement.
However, in order to prevent impeachement from being abused as a party-based power-mongering tool, I advise a 2/3 majority.
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:20
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Originally posted by Trip
I think it should only be submitted by a Minister. The public can have its views, but what if one of the ministers has a plan that he/she doesn't want to reveal to the public, and because of how things are going in the game, all of the sudden someone in the populuce calls for impeachment? |
hi
to prevent this whe should have a senate , so that we can prevent this , the senate is a sperate body , with high powers , and can just sit back and check , recheck and doublecheck , ....
it should be 5 members , so they always have a nice vote , ....
have a nice day
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:20
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Originally posted by Trip
The only problem is that kind of thing will never happen. And what else would they do? Why not just let the Ministers do it? |
hi ,
a senate could be completely impartial , .....
the only thing they would do is to check , ...and when something happens they could act , they could say , no , or not now , yes , yes but later , and so on , ...
imagine some one calls for an "impeachment" , the ministers are "working" on their stuff , so they would loose time , .....
is the impeachment "justified" , that would be the job for the senate , like a judge a bit , people could talk to them , and when this or that is justified , or this of that going in a wrong direction , control it , talk , think , etc ,...
have a nice day
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:20
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Originally posted by Trip
Yes, but it's easier and more definitive to say that someone was 'impeached' rather than 'removed from office'. As far as the entire cabinet being impeached...  |
hi ,
that is why there should be a senate , to prevent wrong-doing , and to tell the people wheter or something is wrong , basically , when they start to impeach everyone , we can keep things "under control" , and save you , ahem , the other people from the government , .......so that the can do whet they are supposed to do , .........work , ahem , play the game , ...
so should the senate go in to "office" , .........as of right now , ....
also the senate shall have the powers , according to the foreign powers act , and apolyton , code 6 , paragraph 18 , art.8754 the right to use a secret police , this government control body would only deal with security about and for the government , it should also , under section 10 , code 85 have the right to deal with certain "individuals" , would hold a field of view that is not consistent with the government , ......
have a nice day
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14-06-2002 17:20
people impeach with 2/3rds.
(I know he can take it) is impeached than I'd rather have him out. 2/3 is quite a majority.
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