14-06-2002 19:36									#1
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This is a smac game

Players, in turn order, are:

Gaians - Darsnan ( dnandal@twcny.rr.com )
Hive - Qantaga ( qantaga@aol.com )
UoP - Chaunk ( mj_blakemore@uk2.net )
Morgan - Shadowlord3 ( dmshadowlord3@yahoo.com )
Sparta - JohnDMuller ( JohnDMuller@msn.com )
Peacekeepers - KrysiasKrusader ( krysiaskrusader@sympatico.ca )

Believers - Miriam Godwinson, playing as herself

Large map, Transcend level, average everything, all five winning conditions activated, plus look first, spoils of war, no Unity survey and no random events.

Seed pods do not produce technologies nor AA's

Standard Apolyton tourney rules apply.

2102 has been sent to Darsnan, and passwords to all.

Good luck and enjoy!!

Googlie

	14-06-2002 20:13									#2
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turn to Q!

	14-06-2002 20:45									#3
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Googlie,

Thank you very much for setting up this game for us. We all appreciate your time, skills and hard work to get the game set up for us.

Good luck to everyone!

2102 to Chaunk.

	14-06-2002 21:14									#4
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2102 to SL3

Thanks Googlie!

	14-06-2002 21:50									#5
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2102 to JDM.

Thanks again Googlie for all your work, good luck to all and lets have some fun.

SL3

	15-06-2002 03:02									#6
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2102 to KK.

Allow me to echo the thanks to Googlie.

	15-06-2002 04:13									#7
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Problem, problem...



I can see at least 9 squares that I shouldn't be able to...

I can see at least 5 ( yes that is five ) different Manifold Nexus's...

I can see mines, mag. tubes, sensor arrays, thermal boreholes, and a unity pod in the same square !?!







Please advise...

	15-06-2002 04:35									#8
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I advised Googlie and sent him the file.

	15-06-2002 05:45									#9
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I've come accross this before with version incompatibility.

I can see these when I open KK's turn, but can't replicate it when I play the turns sequentially from Darsnan's onwards.

Can everyone confirm that they are playing on a PC platform and running smac v. 4.0 (open smac, and then hit ctl and F4. You should then see the version number identified). The Manifold Nexus was introduced when SMAX was released, and incorporated in a in a later version of SMAC, and can corrupt the map if someone's alpha.txt doesn't have it as a feature.

However, some labels that I put on the map temporarily also appear, although I deleted them long before I saved the scenario I started for your game.

If everyone is playing v4.0, may I suggest that you let the turn ride one more round, and if KK gets the same problem next turn, we'll panic then.

(And frankly, I don't know what to do then if it recurs, as, as I say, I cannot replicate it when I run the turns sequentially from Darsnan's original (and it certainly doesn't appear on the scenario that spwans the game)

G.

	15-06-2002 05:51									#10
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I confirm that I'm running SMAC ver. 4.0

	15-06-2002 05:55									#11
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I also confirm that I am running version 4.0, and since I am, can you forward me the turn KK?


D

	15-06-2002 06:06									#12
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Version 4 with release date may 17 1999. I agree, lets play another turn and see if it continues.

SL3

	15-06-2002 06:23									#13
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Turn 2103 to Darsnan

	15-06-2002 08:19									#14
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V4.0 here .

	15-06-2002 08:20									#15
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turn to Q

	15-06-2002 08:51									#16
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Version 4.0 for me, too.

2103 to Chaunk.

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{fingers crossed} because I know the game is well designed and will be a lot of fun.

I personally don't mind a restart if that's what it takes to work things out.

	15-06-2002 09:43									#17
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Bad news, I'm afraid (I realized that I could play out the next round or two of turns as I had all the passwords)

Not only does the problem persist, but after three turns every player sees these six manifold nexi (?) and ocean monoliths etc

I'll go back to the base scenario and make sure that everything is in order and reissue the starting turn.

I had a thought that might be the cause. I added to alpha.txt and alphax.txt under SIZEWORLD the line Humungous Planet, 128 x 256 (anf changed the # from 5 to 6. That lets me see the Humungous Planet as a choice in the menu when I am starting a game.

But PBEMs carry with them them, embedded in the sav file, the alpha.txt rules of the game so maybe your systems are looking for that diff planet size and not finding it, so mucking up the map graphics as a result.

I'll edit out my humungous map and redo the gamestart and let'sa see if it works this time (That's why I prolly couldn't recreate the problem from Darsnan's start rturn, only from the already corrupted one that KK sent me - I think)

G.

	15-06-2002 10:10									#18
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I've amended my alpha.txt (restored to its original) and a restarted 2102 has been sent to Darsnan

Fingers crossed

G.

	15-06-2002 20:45									#19
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Argh! This restart just cost me a MW I had captured my first turn previously! Somehow I know this is all Krysia's Krusaders fault!

Turn to Q!

	15-06-2002 21:50									#20
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New 2102 to Chaunk.

	15-06-2002 22:41									#21
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2102 to SL3.

	16-06-2002 00:23									#22
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2102 to JDM.

	16-06-2002 06:39									#23
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2102(2) to KK.

	16-06-2002 07:32									#24
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Turn 2103-(2) to Darsnan

	16-06-2002 07:40									#25
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2103 to Q!

	16-06-2002 08:02									#26
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2103 to Chaunk.

	16-06-2002 09:51									#27
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Uhhh... Chaunk.

Since we're a team, I don't want the other guys to know what we're sayin' when we're communicatin' at the thread. Alright ?

So I'm going to look in the " U.N. Secret Bureaucratic Code Book " and try to find a code for us here. Okay ?

AND DON'T SAY NOTHIN' TILL WE GOT THIS FIGURED OUT !

	16-06-2002 17:17									#28
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Are we to assume that since we're now in the 2103 round that the map's OK now?

G.

	16-06-2002 17:24									#29
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Googlie, everything looked good in my two turns. I guess KK would have told us if the same problems had popped up again. Thanks for detecting the problem and fixing it for us.

Oh, and KK, I hope you and Chaunk work out your communications issues. shadowlord3 and I have no such concerns.

SL3: "The wolf howls at midnight."

	16-06-2002 17:29									#30
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This message has been censored by the U.N. Beaurocrats who think that turn notifications are almost allways the direct cause of baldness in men over the age of 2. As a result of this, the turn may or may not have been sent to SL3, and we apologise for any inconvinience caused.

Normal service will be resumed when I find that £%*"&£ code book!