15-06-2002 06:33									#1
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To create a city that cannot be destroyed when it's occupied at size 1? (Since population reduces by one when a city is taken, I was wondering if there was a way to keep it from doing this).

	15-06-2002 06:38									#2
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quote: Originally posted by DarthVeda To create a city that cannot be destroyed when it's occupied at size 1? (Since population reduces by one when a city is taken, I was wondering if there was a way to keep it from doing this).

I'm not sure, but this sounds like it would work. It depends on if you already know what civilization will be capturing the city. If you do, place an immobile unit of the future occupiers in the city by using the cheat menu. The city will still be in the other civ's power, and the attackers won't know that there is one of their units in the city until after it's occupied!

Edit: Never mind, forgot that I already have tried this and it doesn't work.

	15-06-2002 06:48									#3
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Guess I'm going to have to learn CSPL after all

	15-06-2002 07:16									#4
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I've seized cities occupied by barbarians that were at 1 population and the city did not disappear, but this doesn't happen every time, and I have no idea what conditions this event.

But it can happen.

	15-06-2002 08:23									#5
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Has anybody, ever, gotten CSPL to work?

	15-06-2002 08:51									#6
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I'd just like to say how much I hate borland. I finally got a cspl engine to compile. Now we're in business.

	15-06-2002 19:38									#7
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The plot thickens around Kyokujitsu

	15-06-2002 20:58									#8
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Give it city walls.

	15-06-2002 20:59									#9
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Ok I've rigged CSPL to keep all cities at size two minimum, no matter how much they are bombarded or reduced to rubble, taken, and retaken.

Sigh. I really didn't want to use CSPL in Kyokujitsu because that meant that I'd want to use it a lot!

It's a lot easier to code in a macro language than C++ let me tell you, but C++ has a lot more functionality. It feels like I'm "cheating".

	15-06-2002 21:00									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Mercator Give it city walls.

If a city has city walls, that will prevent it from losing population when its defending units die. However, when a city is taken, it's population is reduced by one automatically.

	16-06-2002 04:05									#11
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If you use a spy to capture a size 1 city, it dosen't disappear.

	16-06-2002 11:26									#12
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Well it just took me twelve more builds to figure out that the name field of the City struct turns out to act like a bool instead of a char.

*strangles Angelo Scotto for making Darth think he could change the city name*

	16-06-2002 11:59									#13
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Alright, since the documentation for CSPL is extremely misleading and I'm pretty fed up, I'll just use CSPL for keeping cities from being destroyed.

	16-06-2002 18:13									#14
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Make it enough big to not allow it to decline to 1-size
city status. .

Barbarians don't destroy a city indeed.
City walls sometimes work, but if they are "plundered"
they don't.

	16-06-2002 21:07									#15
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The combo of a C++ programmer and a ToT scenario designer is a rare breed. Angelo and Kull are very open to correcting the documention. With your skills, DV, you're fast becoming the beta tester that Angelo has needed all along. Drop them a line with your corrections. Although it's been painful for you, I think you could do a real service here.

Even with documentation flaws, CSPL's potential is very high. After all, from your own criteria, it appears to be your only resort for the size one city problem.

	16-06-2002 21:30									#16
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Yeah I'll probably keep trying anyway

I was fed up after the 45th build last night and battling an ear infection.

I'll probably drop Angelo a line later today.

	18-06-2002 05:27									#17
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Hooray! Angelo saves the day! He has updated the library and fixed my little bugs