15-06-2002 18:18									#1
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These are the choices for how we shall name our cities in the Democracy Game... If there are any others, please list below.

Cabinet Ministers
All Players
Historical Names (UR, Nineveh, etc.)
Active Members (Posting in last 2 weeks)
Other

	15-06-2002 18:48									#2
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what does "cabinet ministers" mean? Does it mean tthe cities are named after them or they take turns naming them?

	15-06-2002 19:34									#3
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I'd say all active citizens...

	15-06-2002 20:10									#4
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All active players within the last two weeks get to name a city.

Now, in what order they go, I don't know. Maybe in order of joining...

	15-06-2002 21:51									#5
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I go for active players too :
- this is very democratic, and gives an incentive to follow the game, even to those who aren't in the cabinet.
- the definition of "active player" is very wide. You won't have to do as much work as Moral Hazard or Gramphos to be considered one.
- the game won't be stuck when waiting for a completely inactive player, who checks the forum rarely (that's why I voted "active players" rather than "all players").

I think that order of joining is the easiest to implement, so I'd go for it too.

Civman2000 :
As we'll quickly run out of ministers to name the cities after , I think it means the ministers get to name the cities as it pleases them (or the polls they hold).

	15-06-2002 21:54									#6
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I agree about active citiizens naming the cities. But more importantly the first city should be named Trippen.

	15-06-2002 22:13									#7
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other. you should have a combination of active players and histoical events.

on example of a historical event in the civ2 demo. game was when they lost an elephant to the babylonian forces. they captured Ellipi and renamed it "Babar" after the elephant from childrens books.

	15-06-2002 22:47									#8
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I agree with Hazard and Uber. We should be able to name cities after important events/battles/etc.

	15-06-2002 23:44									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Trip I agree with Hazard and Uber. We should be able to name cities after important events/battles/etc.

and presidents?

	15-06-2002 23:45									#10
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the first city should be named "Apolyton". it just has to

	15-06-2002 23:54									#11
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perhaps if regional governors were introduced a la Civfanatics, then they would be responsible. Otherwise, I think those who have participated actively should be able to suggest names/Hazard & Uber's ideas are both good solutions.

	16-06-2002 00:13									#12
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In my view, the ideal way to have these cities named would be to, when new city construction is imminent, to issue an open call on ideas, take the reasonable (determined by the cabinet) names, and then have the populous vote.

	16-06-2002 01:09									#13
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Active citizens choose the name, though not necessarily in the order that they joined.

	16-06-2002 05:43									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I go for active players too : - this is very democratic, and gives an incentive to follow the game, even to those who aren't in the cabinet. - the definition of "active player" is very wide. You won't have to do as much work as Moral Hazard or Gramphos to be considered one. - the game won't be stuck when waiting for a completely inactive player, who checks the forum rarely (that's why I voted "active players" rather than "all players"). I think that order of joining is the easiest to implement, so I'd go for it too.

I agree with Spiffor on these points , the argument for which I outlined more fully in this thread, but for those who don't want to read it, basically the idea is to encourage participation by everyone.

Players may decide whether to name cities after people, events, or the Banana .

Captured cities should either be left with their original name or renamed, whatever the next person in line decides. Other player can lobby for a given name. Or in the case of a monumental event, the cabinet could decide to suspend the process temporarily and give a city a special commemorative name.

	16-06-2002 06:30									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Trip I agree with Hazard and Uber. We should be able to name cities after important events/battles/etc.

Erm, usually it's the other way round

	17-06-2002 16:36									#16
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I deeply look forward to our first city (after Apolyton, as our Capital MUST be named) being named after the first (and still active) member - MrWIAville!

* MrWhereItsAt sees the harsh stares of the rest of the posters



Ok. Maybe not quite.....

	17-06-2002 16:59									#17
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Meh, I'd support naming the first non-capital city MrWIAville-- hell, he's backing my proposal to name the leader "Evil Overlord", so I figure I should reciprocate

	17-06-2002 17:08									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov Meh, I'd support naming the first non-capital city MrWIAville

Dont you think our cities should have pronauncible names?

	17-06-2002 17:15									#19
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"Mist-er-Wee-a-ville" sounds pronounceable to me...

	17-06-2002 17:34									#20
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Who needs to ever pronounce the name? We just need to be able to type it.

How about WIAville - as in Why-a-ville. Or just keep the MrWIAville and say the "Mr" is silent.

And civman - your PMs are full, so clean 'em out!

	17-06-2002 20:00									#21
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt I deeply look forward to our first city (after Apolyton, as our Capital MUST be named) being named after the first (and still active) member - MrWIAville!

HEY, wait a minute, I wanted ville to my name: ADGville

	17-06-2002 20:07									#22
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How about ADGtopolis?

	17-06-2002 20:19									#23
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I can live with that

	17-06-2002 21:30									#24
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How would you define active? I get the point about within the last 2 weeks, but HOW active? Once at Apolyton? Once on the Demo Game board? 100 posts? How relevant would the posts have to be?

Until you know these things, you can't vote wisely.

	17-06-2002 21:37									#25
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You start with those who post all the bloody time, and when you can't think of any more of them, move on to the ones you can find in the active threads. No biggy.

It pays to keep blathering.

	17-06-2002 22:03									#26
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This poll is pretty bad. Even when one option wins, then what? How will we decide then?

	17-06-2002 22:13									#27
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Another poll of course! Like the whole forum.

	17-06-2002 22:24									#28
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If you go with choosing player names, the better way would be to use in order of joining. This prevents it from becoming a popularity contest (any more so than it already would be).

If only active members, then you would have to keep track of the activity of any members who are earlier in the joining process if they became active later enough to qualify to be so named.

I do like the proposal to discuss a poll before posting it so as to make it less confusing. Not too mention reducing the number of polls, hopefully. A good way to turn off people is to have lots of polls. Gets old quick.

	18-06-2002 00:45									#29
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Rome was the first Republic! It had a Senate!

Greece was a democracy coming from the Greek words demo , meaning everybody gets to vote, and cracy, meaning except women, slaves and poor people (Dave Barry, Dave Barry Hits Below the Beltway).

	18-06-2002 01:02									#30
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[Replying to question about how to define "active"]

We have a numbered list already, so the Minister of Municipal Nomenclature could send them a PM as their turn approaches. If they don't reply with their suggestion for a city name, then skip 'em.

Last edited by Purple on 18-06-2002 at 01:08