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system370
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Wales - UK
Mar 2002
time: 05:20
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How Quickly can you Kill the Guardian?
How Many turns does it take you ?
Settings:
Galaxy Size : Medium
Galaxy Tech : Average
Galaxy Type : Organic
After turn 150
Before turn 150
Before trun 140
Before turn 130
Before turn 120
Before turn 110
Before Turn 100 !!! - Tell Me how !
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genius23
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u cant realy say someone is 'good' in moo2, since even a trained chimp could take orion early with 2 EMG mercs battleships if he uses a decent race, has some planets for housingcolonies and does the refit empty frigate trick every turn, but it is just no fun, when i play moo2 i want to evolve my race and fight hightech spacebattles.
taking orion early and leveling the entire map with the avenger is imo as cheap as is the refit frigate trick.
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vmxa1
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Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:20
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That is one point. Many people cheat like crazy and then crow about how they did this or that. I see all kinds of post about non creative races doing stuff by 100 or so turns. On imposible maps if you play straight, you can not do them.
The refit deal is : if you build something and it finishes with out using all of the production, the unused productions stays until you post trade goods to collect it. I you build such an item, and then put say an empty frigate in to be refitted then each turn put it back in the que to be refit, the production will just build up. You can generate tons of BC's this way. At least that is what I have heard, I have not tried it. It is some what like what happens if you add an item to the build each time it finsihes that last item, you get the left over used for the next item, a bug, a cheat. Most MP leagues use Housing to prevent it. If you add Housing to the bottom of the queue and never remove it, that stops it. To me if one plays that way, then why not just save all the labor and use an editor to give your self the money, what is the difference? It is not proper. I suspect many of the post I use to see boasting about this or that, used these tricks. It does not take much to see the ones that are actually earning their way.
Last edited by vmxa1 on 17-06-2002 at 07:25
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bbess1
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The best place to research Moo2 strategy is at Geoffery Tobin's
ZOETROPE site. Here is the link
http://www.sff.net/people/zoetrope/
Click on the FTP downloads section
You'll find archives from SFF net's moo2 strategy boards which were active when the game was new. There are literally thousands of pages of stuff there, including blitz tactics that can win the game against the AI in around 100 turns, and in depth Guardian tips. Also scenarios, mods, and editors. It's a goldmine.
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Bladz
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Oh no.. I think I read someone say that you can't play the hardest setting of MOO II without creative and kick butt! I win with 8 races on huge map about 70 % of the time.
Allow me to intoduce myself. hehe
Really, I don't choose creative ever. 8 points just isn't worth it to me. The only game setting I ever play is the hardest.
Cheats? Why do they even exist? I never understand why people need cheats?
To me.. if you need the cheat.. drop down a game lvl until you get better then move up..
Ok, ok.. if you are already on the lowest... just keep dying till you figure it out! Cheats... how are they fun?
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vmxa1
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Oviedo, Fl
Nov 2001
time: 21:20
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To me it is just another trait, not better, not worse. By that I mean, it does not allow you to win, just because you choose it. Well, maybe at settings below hard and maybe even at hard, but at impossible it can be a hinderence. You gave up a lot of points for it and that makes you weaker at other aspects of the game. What I mean is that I can take it at impossible and win, but I could lose as well. As far as cheats are concerned, I sort of agree, you do not need them and they make you lazy. For testing hypothesis, you could use them. I wanted to test some build strategies and the best test bed was to use an editor to remove all but one AI planet. I just wanted to record the values at each stage of the build and not be concerned about anything else. Last night, I want to test a specific ship, so I used an editor to create it. Once I seen the results, I exit the game. So in other words there is a place for "cheats", just so you do not use them for actual play and pretend you did not.
Last edited by vmxa1 on 01-07-2002 at 21:52
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