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Vesayen is offline Vesayen
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I just got red alert 2 and found it........unsettling(capital in fire.....) Got spare money?

Yes I know its years old but I picked up a copy today.

I live in NY, 40 miles from the city.

I was of course concerned about what happened on september 11'th but I didnt feel an emotional connection to it.......

In the earlier levels of red alert 2 you are in the capital, and see many various national landmarks in flames, and you have to mow down line after line after line of brainwashed civilians......I found this very unsettling.

Except for the mission in grand theft auto 2 where you turn a bus load of people into hotdogs, this is the second time I've ever been to discusted by a game that I stopped playing it for a bit......mabey I'll go back to it tommorow.

Am I wierd for being troubled- even in a game- by watching washington burn, all the while you mow down hundreds of civilians?

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I like Red Alert 2 and have the expansion. In both of those you conquer London (as both the allies and the soviets in the expansion), Egypt, Russia, Germany and Paris. So it's not just America.

I like the way the plot goes. If you play as the Soviets you see British rather than American news reports after the US falls. It has nice touches like that.

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So what is the objective of Red Alert and its follow-ups? Aliens invade the world? Nations attacking other nations and crushing them?

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GK: West v. USSR in an alternate WW2.

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Imran:

Fascinating. Just how "alternate," though?

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As in, Einstein goes back in time and kills Hitler in 1923, and Stalin decides to invade Europe, alternate .

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I never played this game and dont know jack **** about it but why couldnt they just have it be a cold war turned hot? Too hard to have nuclear weapons in a real-time strategy?


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Because they needed to have Stalin .

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Does Kane make an appearence in the original Red Alert?

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I dunno... didn't play all the way through.

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Stalin died in 53 (?)... have war break out over the paritition of Germany and Manchuria.


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First, this thread should go in the Other Games section. This is especially important because hasn't Vesayen made four off topic threads today?

Back to the topic, Kane is in the original Red Alert. When you play the Soviets he walks in the background, seemingly unimportant. He starts to do more near the end.

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Stalin died in 53 (?)... have war break out over the paritition of Germany and Manchuria.


Chinese are no fun.

And this is about the West. IN the original Red Alert, IIRC, the US really doesn't even show up. It's Western Europe v. USSR.

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Who's Kane?

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Imran:

Damn I would definently buy a game with the Chinese in it. There's no games where you can play the modern Chinese army, are there?

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People's General.

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Chinese are no fun.


They are going to be in CnC: Generals. So, I hope Westwood can make them fun.

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IN the original Red Alert, IIRC, the US really doesn't even show up. It's Western Europe v. USSR.


Isn't Tanya an American commando?

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Does Kane make an appearence in the original Red Alert?


He's one of Stalin's advisors. GDI also is created by the Allies in the Allied campeign. RA2 isn't really related to the original C&C conquer though, since Tiberiam would have allready started infecting the world.

As for the Capital, it was supposted to be disturbing. The Russian NYC mission is even more disturbing in todays world, since your mission is to blow up the twin towers.

Also just to clarify, I think America went to war with Japan in the RA universe, since they had the USS Arizona in the Pearl Harbor mission.

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The US did show up in red alert. You can tell because:

The soldiers in berlin have American (texan actually) accents.

therefore, the arizona was most likely from the RUSSIAN attack on Pearl Harbor, which ended with the heroic united states of america leading the invasion of Russia against the Red Menace.

Besides, if you look at the map, then the US had to be involved. Even as the allies, the Russians reach France, so you have industrial capability left untouched in... Britain and Spain? Not quite what's needed to beat the RUssians, I think.

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I got sick of the series after Red Alert. The missions are too boring, the gameplay isn't that good either.

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I got sick of the series after Red Alert. The missions are too boring, the gameplay isn't that good either.


Whatever floats your boat.

More proof that America was proboly fighting Japan during RA1 (although they might have sent some help to the Allies) is the Iwa Jima memorial in the first Russian mission, why would we have it if we weren't in a war with Japan?

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Isn't Tanya an American commando?


In the original she's an English civillian. In the sequal she's an American commando.

Red Alert 1 (unless I'm mistaken) the two military officials are French and Germans and Tanya's English, representing the 3 main Western European powers.

You can't play as the Americans in Red Alert 1. In Red Alert 2 you only play as the Americans (though you can play as the British, French, Germans, Koreans, etc in skirmish mode).

There are a couple of mistakes in the series. One I noticed was that Germany always has post-WW2 borders, even though Germany never declared war as WW2 didn't happen.

Also, in the add-on they are planning a secret meeting of world leaders - IN THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT?! Hmm, very inconspicious

One thing I did notice was that playing as the Russians, the last 3 main countries to fall to the Soviets are Britain, India and Australia. What are they trying to suggest?

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You can also get an idea as to the time period the second is set, as the US president seems very much like Ronald Raegan and the British PM is a Margaret Thatcher lookalike.

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As for the Capital, it was supposted to be disturbing. The Russian NYC mission is even more disturbing in todays world, since your mission is to blow up the twin towers.


I think I'll skip that mission lol.

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Actually, in that mission, you can alternately occupy the twin towers, at which point you will be able to see the entire map.

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Hmmm, maybe I should get RA2 . Even though I suck at RTS, if I can get it cheap, should be fun for a laugh .

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RA2 was pretty easy, considering I suck at RTS (probably even more then Imran here ) and I played it through in a couple of nights. Of course it was in loan, I'd never put my cash on an RTS.

And RA2's Allied campaign was worth playing to the end just because of the ending FMV.

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This game is pretty damn easy......theres no "finese" at all.....the formula is the same for every mission: defend against a zillion infantry units which you mow down, then build 50 of the new unit for this map, and attack the enemy....rinse repeat.

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I like RA2. I've made a coupla maps for it too. One set in a European harbour, one in Northern England, one of 2020 NY and one of my town, Eastbourne.

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I like RA2. I've made a coupla maps for it too. One set in a European harbour, one in Northern England, one of 2020 NY and one of my town, Eastbourne.


Where can I find them?

 
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