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Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001
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ive got nothing against a persons sexually its a personal
choice but i do mind it being flanted in my face every day. i don't like hetros doing that either. |
You make it sound like the mere mentioning of being gay (or even implication) is somehow throwing it into your face.
First, it's rather egocentric to believe such topics are discussed just to fling something in your face. It's not all about you, ya know.
Second, as I said, what you define as flinging in your face doesn't seem to me to be anything different from heterosexuals discussing their lives, dreams, passions, etc. Being gay is a big part of a gay person's life, and it is inevitable that the subject will arise when people are discussing their lives. Are you saying gays shouldn't discuss who they are in deference to a few heterosexuals who get queasy over it?
Third, I think you're assertion is quite wrong, as homosexuality has not arisen the the vast majority of threads on this board. I think you're just picking it out because it makes you uncomfortable and blowing it out of proportion.
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i personallly think sexually should be discussed in a more private manner. |
Sexual behavior, yes. Sexual orientation, no. There's no reason for a gay person so censor discussing his/her life for the sake of not offending someone.
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all im saying is that lately it seems this forum is
turning into a gay parade of invitations and
sexual inuendos between the gay posters. |
I've seen far more gay innuendo between heterosexual posters than gay ones. Don't blame us for the heterosexual men flirting amongst themselves.
And again, I don't see this as being true. I think you're blowing things out of proportion a great deal. I'd say the percentage of gay-related posts are miniscule, perhaps about 5% at the most. I'm just wondering why you seem to be focusing on them.
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it used to be that most of the sexual referances were in the coffee shop and if a person wanted to view that they could go there but lately its spread to many other threads. |
I think you're forgetting the upteen "Which Babe You Think is The Hottest" threads thrust upon us countless times by leering, hormonal teenage heterosexuals. I'm pretty certain there hasn't been a comparable number of threads by gays here.
And the vast majority of the gay threads I have seen are based upon political and sociological discussions, not sexual ones.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:20
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So what's the difference between complimenting someone on their looks and acting slutty? Just curious where you draw the line. I doubt everyone has the same definition of what constitutes slutty or not.
If a guy posts a pic, and I compliment him on being good-looking, I don't see that as slutty, I consider that being polite, regardless of my sexual orientation.
If he posted a shirtless pic and I said "Oh wow, can I fondle you?" then yeah, that would be over the line (provided the comment was serious, of course). But it's hardly something that, if I observed, I would spend a lot of time fretting over.
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MrFun
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of Iowa
Nov 2000
time: 23:20
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Here is a laundry list of double standards for you, Boann, so you can understand better.
1) It's ok for heterosexual couples to hold hands in public. But it's not ok for homosexual couples to hold hands in public.
2) People who see a heterosexual couple peck lips in public smile, think how wonderful that cuople looks together. People who see a homosexual couple peck lips in public frown and wish they would not make their sexual orientation publicly known.
3) Heterosexual workers have pictures of significant others at their workplaces and celebrate the births of their children. Homosexuals should be forbidden to "flaunt" their sexual orientation in the same way.
4) There are dozens of dating shows that cater to heterosexuals on television, and many people enjoy watching them. When one or two start to include homosexuals, they wonder why does it always have to be about sexual orienation (even though it already is).
5) 99% of all television series are about heterosexuals and their lives. When people come across the 1% that are about homosexuals and their lives, they wonder why there are shows that flaunt sexual orientation, even though hetero shows also flaunt sexual orientation.
6) With promiscuous heterosexuals, people might grumble about the immorality of it, but many others say that it's part of their growing up, and exploration. With promiscuous homosexuals, many people see them as deviant, or obsessed with sex -- but no, NEVER heterosexuals -- they are pure, and virtuous.
7) So many people discriminate against others who are not heterosexual, and then those same people wonder what are the problems that homosexuals have, that they have to organize into protest groups??
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Monk
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I don't think we're in Brønshøj anymore
Jan 1970
time: 06:20
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Hey Mr. Fun, you get your point across nicely, but maybe you should cut down slightly on the victim role. Not everybody cares who is holding your hand.
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Jon Miller
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I am not saying that this is what I am saying is true for me and Boann, merely going to point out some generalizations which 'could' be wrong (not sure where the majority is)
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Here is a laundry list of double standards for you, Boann, so you can understand better.
1) It's ok for heterosexual couples to hold hands in public. But it's not ok for homosexual couples to hold hands in public.
- some people do not like any couples holding hands in public
2) People who see a heterosexual couple peck lips in public smile, think how wonderful that cuople looks together. People who see a homosexual couple peck lips in public frown and wish they would not make their sexual orientation publicly known.
- some people dislike PDAs (whether heterosexual or homosexual)
3) Heterosexual workers have pictures of significant others at their workplaces and celebrate the births of their children. Homosexuals should be forbidden to "flaunt" their sexual orientation in the same way.
- I doubt if most would consider it flaunting if a gay guy had a picture of his SO in the workplace
4) There are dozens of dating shows that cater to heterosexuals on television, and many people enjoy watching them. When one or two start to include homosexuals, they wonder why does it always have to be about sexual orienation (even though it already is).
- most people are heteros, of course the shows will be directed towards the largest population group, also there are some who think the hetero shows are improper also
5) 99% of all television series are about heterosexuals and their lives. When people come across the 1% that are about homosexuals and their lives, they wonder why there are shows that flaunt sexual orientation, even though hetero shows also flaunt sexual orientation.
- once more most people are heteros, and some do not like the way some of the hetero shows are also
6) With promiscuous heterosexuals, people might grumble about the immorality of it, but many others say that it's part of their growing up, and exploration. With promiscuous homosexuals, many people see them as deviant, or obsessed with sex -- but no, NEVER heterosexuals -- they are pure, and virtuous.
- no, many think that promiscuous heteros are immoral (and the ones who think that promiscuity is part of growing up and the like are also the ones who mostle think the same about homosexuality)
7) So many people discriminate against others who are not heterosexual, and then those same people wonder what are the problems that homosexuals have, that they have to organize into protest groups??
- not anough time to get into this
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basically while I agree that there some double standards out there
in many areas it is not as clear(ly a case of double standards) as you are making it out to be
Jon Miller
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Jon Miller
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So what's the difference between complimenting someone on their looks and acting slutty? Just curious where you draw the line. I doubt everyone has the same definition of what constitutes slutty or not.
- most assuredly yes, but she can say that she thinks that what she thinks is slutty behavior is going on through too many threads (And that it is the homosexual posters who are doing it) and ask if posters will tone it down a little
- I bet that she would similiarly find some past cases of heterosexual behavior too much and would at times find counterglow too much
If a guy posts a pic, and I compliment him on being good-looking, I don't see that as slutty, I consider that being polite, regardless of my sexual orientation.
- a lot of people don't (not saying that I or Boann or anybody else on this site thinks that way, just that I know people who appear too)
If he posted a shirtless pic and I said "Oh wow, can I fondle you?" then yeah, that would be over the line (provided the comment was serious, of course). But it's hardly something that, if I observed, I would spend a lot of time fretting over.
- you have lines also and that is good, just take this thread as a reguest by another poster and determine what to do with it as you feel right (That fact that there are not a lot of posters coming out saying they feel uncomfortable suggests that most are not uncomfortable with the way things are right now, but it is still always nice to be considerate of others feelings)
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personally I have noticed some of what she is talking about
but I don't think it is really bad yet
I have seen far worse from some of the hetero posters (who shall remain nameless)
Jon Miller
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Monk
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I don't think we're in Brønshøj anymore
Jan 1970
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Fun, explain what?
So what's the difference between complimenting someone on their looks and acting slutty?
No, the real question is - why is acting slutty a bad thing in people's minds? It's a great thing, as long as you take the appropriate precautions.
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Jon Miller
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but over 10% of shows have some homosexual characters
Jon Miller
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Monk
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I don't think we're in Brønshøj anymore
Jan 1970
time: 06:20
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but over 10% of shows have some homosexual characters
Probably correct, but how often do you see gays on TV kissing each other or making sexual references of some sort? Granted, I don't know about that many shows, so maybe you can enlighten me.
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