16-06-2002 16:43									#1
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I just read this and it looks really great. Has anyone played Shogun: Total War and is it a good series?

	16-06-2002 21:01									#2
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If you get the game, get Shogun Total War: Warlord Edition (it's comes in a white box). It contains all the patches, expansion pack, etc.

Excellent game IMHO, especially compared to what's out there. The game LOOKS great, the production values are very high, and the battles are huge. . .

For a more in-depth look at the game, check out reviews by people who have played it:


http://www.pcgr.com/reviews/strategy/product_1015.asp

	18-06-2002 09:55									#3
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Shogun: Total War is alright, grab a copy if it is in the bargain bin. Very little replay value.

	18-06-2002 14:54									#4
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Thoroughly enjoyed the basic S:TW and at budget price it should be very good vfm. I didn't try the expansion but I understand it did address the flaws in the original that made it boring to replay

	18-06-2002 20:43									#5
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I've played the Medieval demo: Stunning

	19-06-2002 00:56									#6
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Great series

A must have for any RTS gamer; except for hardcore Starcrafters.

	19-06-2002 18:03									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba A must have for any RTS gamer; except for hardcore Starcrafters.

Well is was a hardcore Starcrafter so . I played the demo of Shogun and it was quite fun, not very fast paced but still. Nice graphics.

	19-06-2002 22:05									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Wille not very fast paced but still.

Yeah, that's why I injected my Starcraft comment.

Its definately a slower paced RTS wargame that deals with formations and troop positioning a lot more than most of its peers.

BTW, there is a TBS element to the single-player mode too where you manage your "empire" and move your armies around Japan. I wish they had incorporated that into the multiplayer, but they never did.

	20-06-2002 15:22									#9
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The option to multiplayer the full game not just the battles would certainly have been good. It would have demanded save/restore capabilities though because there is no way you could get a game done in an evening and some way of passing the time while 2 other players fought . Heck, you're unlikely to get a game of the original Shogun boardgame done in an evening where resolving the battles just took rolling a few dice

	20-06-2002 16:34									#10
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Now I've learnt of some kind of assassination thingie that supposedly could end the game in a second. I want a strategy game not some crappy RPG mix! Please fill me in on this, I hope im wrong.

	22-06-2002 08:28									#11
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Hardcore sc/bw players represent!

	23-06-2002 22:15									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Wille Now I've learnt of some kind of assassination thingie that supposedly could end the game in a second. I want a strategy game not some crappy RPG mix! Please fill me in on this, I hope im wrong.

Willie: I don't think you'll have anything to worry about. Here is a review of STW: WE from the Wargamer:

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/sho...isited_main.asp

	24-06-2002 02:43									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Grumbold Heck, you're unlikely to get a game of the original Shogun boardgame done in an evening where resolving the battles just took rolling a few dice

Not if you play my wife: she kicks my a$$ everytime!

It's very de-masculating.

	24-06-2002 21:29									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba Not if you play my wife: she kicks my a$$ everytime! It's very de-masculating.

Don't shave, grunt more often, and crush beer cans. . . this should help. . .

	28-06-2002 14:06									#15
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A demo for Medieval - Total War has been released , its 235mb though...

Maybe I'll download it later or wait for a magazine CD with it, 235 is much even if you've got DSL and especially if the server is slow...

	28-06-2002 16:25									#16
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UK PC Gamer has that demo in the latest edition so the US one should too. I've been too busy to check it out.

	28-06-2002 22:53									#17
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Medieval Total War site just opened. It looks like a pretty good game. Worth keeping your eyes on it:


http://www.activision.com/games/medieval_totalwar/

More info here:

http://www.wargamer.com/e3_2002/art...p?articleID=107

	29-06-2002 20:13									#18
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nice links Leonidas
Looks very promising. I really enjoyed Shogun(and mongol invaision), it kept me occupied for quite a while, trying out different clans to play as etc. It's the most fun i've had in a tbs to date.
Just tried that download - it'll take me about an hour, and that's over a 1.5M cable connection no-one could do it on 56k that's for certain!

	30-06-2002 21:03									#19
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor nice links Leonidas Looks very promising. I really enjoyed Shogun(and mongol invaision), it kept me occupied for quite a while, trying out different clans to play as etc. It's the most fun i've had in a tbs to date. Just tried that download - it'll take me about an hour, and that's over a 1.5M cable connection no-one could do it on 56k that's for certain!

child of Thor: My pleasure It's great to see the historical game is back. And this one looks like it'll be a winner. It will include many more features than Shogun had. . .

Sooo, gaming is looking good. . .

	07-07-2002 17:22									#20
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STW was great. I don't have Mongol Invasion but played original STW a fair bit. MP is great, and quite unique in my experience, since it is nothing like usual RTS games. I will get Medievel: Total war when it comes out for sure.

	15-07-2002 09:51									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba Its definately a slower paced RTS wargame that deals with formations and troop positioning a lot more than most of its peers. BTW, there is a TBS element to the single-player mode too where you manage your "empire" and move your armies around Japan.

That's exactly why it is a pure strategy game. And starcraft is not.
(Shogun is sugared with nice realtime battles where YOU chose the speed and tactics) Most RTS are not strategy games,
but merely "warsimulations".

	21-07-2002 03:11									#22
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Just played and completed the Demo(just the tutorial levels), and anyone who loved Shogun will feel right at home. Just wish the demo included some of my favourite bit(the tbs aspect), ah well can't have it all.
Can't wait for this one - think it will go straight into my top ten

	25-07-2002 08:08									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Wille Now I've learnt of some kind of assassination thingie that supposedly could end the game in a second. I want a strategy game not some crappy RPG mix! Please fill me in on this, I hope im wrong.

It's true. You can wipe out an entire opposing clan once you finished building the Tea House, giving you access to those truly lethal Geishas.

	25-07-2002 14:24									#24
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The bad points of Shogun:
You end up saving before an assanination so if it fails you can reload until it works
The AI gets to move during your go: when you send an army into a providence the ai gets to move its units in from other places, you dont making the defence much harder for the player!

Medieval better stop this!

	25-07-2002 15:01									#25
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The AI was pretty stupid though, sometimes I moved my troops into enemy provinces while the AI moved troops away.