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Silvern Tiger is offline Silvern Tiger
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Jun 2002
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Hi everybody!

I can't build any buildings in communism

Does anybody know why

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I deleted all my games so I can't tell you exactly what to look for but go to your domestic advisor. In communism your cultural advisor has a setting under government type called military readiness or something. It should be set to normal if you want to build buildings...

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Jun 2002
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ooops It really is on wartimes, but i cant set it back..

Is it impossible or am i just too drunken for Civ3?

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May 2002
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You are probably in wartime mobilization. This only allows you to build military related things. You have to switch back to normal, but in order to do so you have to sign at least one peace treaty. Good luck

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Sep 2000
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OK, the mobilization is there for any government, and gets enabled my Nationalism. To demobilize, you need to sign at least one Peace Treaty, after which demobilization becomes available on the Domestic Advisor.

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OK, the mobilization is there for any government, and gets enabled my Nationalism. To demobilize, you need to sign at least one Peace Treaty, after which demobilization becomes available on the Domestic Advisor.


I believe demobilization is automatic with the first peace treaty.

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Apr 2002
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demobilisation is not automatic. i havent used communism much, but it is not automatic under democrazy.

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Demobilization is not automatic, and (de)mobilization has nothing to with government type.

When I say stuff like this, I know what am I saying.

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Demobilization is not automatic, and (de)mobilization has nothing to with government type. When I say stuff like this, I know what am I saying.


I believe you. I just can't remember it asking (and am no where near a gaming computer).

Catt is offline Catt
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May 2002
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Demobilization is not automatic, and (de)mobilization has nothing to with government type.


Like Zach, I believe you -- I enjoy reading your well-informed, helpful posts. But I too thought that a peace treaty automatically dumps you out of mobilization, and am also not near a game PC. Maybe tonight. Wouldn't be the first time I misremembered something about the game . . .

Catt

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Like Zach, I believe you -- I enjoy reading your well-informed, helpful posts. But I too thought that a peace treaty automatically dumps you out of mobilization, and am also not near a game PC. Maybe tonight. Wouldn't be the first time I misremembered something about the game . . .

Catt


Its unrelated. Its purely an 'economic' status. I could go into war weariness to build up my troops before an anticipated war, or I could sign a treaty with complete intensions of violating it in 10 turns. Germany was in wartime mobilization a few years before WW2 IMO. Perhaps the US was in wartime mobilization through the eighties.

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Its unrelated. Its purely an 'economic' status. I could go into war weariness to build up my troops before an anticipated war, or I could sign a treaty with complete intensions of violating it in 10 turns.


My only point is: when mobilized, if you make peace, (1) does your economy automatically "de-mobilize" and go back to a peacetime mode (all builds available, no shield bonus), or (2) must you choose to go back to a peacetime economy (through a pop-up or by going to the domestic advisor screen). I thought it was the former, Solver says it's the latter. Don't care who's right, just want to know the answer.

Catt

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Apr 2002
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I have used mobilization 3 or 4 times now and I'm pretty sure that I always dropped out of it automatically, once I signed a peace treaty.

Fitz is offline Fitz
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Mar 2000
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Since I've never been asked if I want to leave mobilization, I vote automatic.

Zachriel is offline Zachriel
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Automatic.

It's 1844AD, and there is war between Germany v. India and France, the French and Indian War as it's known. Playing as the Germans, I approached the Indians for peace. They agree. Mobilization ends. That's it. The moment the peace treaty was made, "war-time" disappeared from the status box. There was no message box even after end-turn. I was still at war with France.

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Sep 2001
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... Germany was in wartime mobilization a few years before WW2 IMO. ...

Strangely enough, Germany didn't go into wartime mobilization of its economy until (gasp!) 1943!

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Jun 2002
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Strangely enough, Germany didn't go into wartime mobilization of its economy until (gasp!) 1943!


Yeah, but that was a complete different situation:

- Adolph Hitler was a general in WW1. So he knew how to make a war. And he planned the war a long time before. (but russia didn't surrender, even after 15 Million deaths and lots of destruction)

- In the hitler youth the german boys learned how to handle a gun.

- The war in Spain was a good practice too.

I guess war mobilization was'nt necessary for Germany till 1943.


But how could this be possible:

Russia lost 20 million people in the WW2,
Poland 5.8 million,
Joguslavia 1.8 million,
France 0.6 million,
England 0.4 million,
USA 0.3 million,

And Germany only 4.8 million!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Hitler was a corporal, not a general. LMAO.

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But he was gay, thats for sure!

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Germany did not have the industrial capacity to mobilize and mass produce the arms of war. This is a fact often glossed over by history.

In typical mass production factories are set up to produce one thing, or just a few. Hilter did not have enough factories to do this so he took another approach.

When a particular armanent was needed, German factories would quickly retool to produce it. Then they would switch to another. It was a marvel of industrial prowess, a great feat.

The manner of waging war was blitzkreig. Hitler never wanted to get into the kind of war of attrition that WWI was. He knew that in the end Germany could only lose that. So he designed an approach that essentially created an Army in which all units were as elite as we in America would like to think our Rangers or the Delta Force are.

When Russia survived the first winter it was all over. Germany was forced into the kind of war it could only lose.

Insofar as your casualty figures, look, none has ever created a more efficient war machine than Hitler did, at least in modern times.

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Mar 2002
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Hitler was a corporal, not a general. LMAO.


Exact.

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How do you know all that?

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How do you know all that?


The world's knowledge is at your fingertips (on the web).

BRITANNICA
In 1913 Hitler moved to Munich. Screened for Austrian military service in February 1914, he was classified as unfit because of inadequate physical vigour; but when World War I broke out he immediately volunteered for the German army and joined the 16th Bavarian Reserve Infantry Regiment. He served throughout the war, was wounded in October 1916, and was gassed two years later. He was hospitalized when the conflict ended. During the war, he was continuously in the front line as a headquarters runner; his bravery in action was rewarded with the Iron Cross, Second Class, in December 1914, and the Iron Cross, First Class (a rare decoration for a corporal), in August 1918. He greeted the war with enthusiasm, as a great relief from the frustration and aimlessness of civilian life. He found discipline and comradeship satisfying and was confirmed in his belief in the heroic virtues of war.

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Do you also know when Bavaria became a german state?

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Do you also know when Bavaria became a german state?


Which time?

1871 German Empire
1919 Weimar Republic
1948 Federal Republic

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uuh, I maybe be totally off topic ( by now) but could it be that demobilisation is semi-automatic?? Im nowhere near a copy of civ3 so I cant test it, but could it be that signing a peace treaty with a nation, while remaining at war with another keeps you mobilized for war, but when signing a treaty with your last ( or only ) enemy you are automaticly demobilised?
Ive only mobilised for war during huge world wars when everybody was at war with everybody else (or mostly me).

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As luck has I was playing teh game last night and I was mobilizing and drafting the heck out of my people in order to drive back the forces of evil Japan, who declared war on me while we were on "Polite" terms. After decimating his attacking forces (with my Artillery, which is moded to attack lethally) I counterattacked, razed a couple cities and took a couple of his cities forcing him to the negotiating table where I asked for his unconditional surrender. Well, there was no fanfare, no pop-up menu, nothing that indicated that my State dropped back from the exhausting war mobilization to Normalcy! It was the first time I ever mobilized and I actually expected one of those no good advisors (with the exception of the science advisor of course ) to tell me something. I guess I will have to rearrange my cabinet !

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