17-06-2002 13:22									#1
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Civ 3 has grown on me. I've come to terms with it's flaws (few) and am realy quite enjoying it.
However there's one thing that realy pisses me off.
I was playing a game as the Romans and built all my infrastructure so I could concentrate on killing the rest of the civs as soon as modern armour would become available.
When I could finaly build them most cities that were finishing construction of a building suddenly started making legions! So I had to manualy go through all cities to change it. Very annoying and time consuming
It shouldn't be too hard to make them become obsolete after e.g. the discovery of chivalry.
Firaxis please change this in your next patch.

	17-06-2002 13:46									#2
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Civ 3 grows on me - like a tumor.

There are lots of examples of sloppy programming. I have even seen AI governors (mine and theirs) build warships in 14 tile lakes, and that problem I thought was a thing of the past with Civ 2. Nope. They were too busy dreaming up Culture Flipping and other weird stuff.

I was playing an accurate world map with a dozen civs. I was in western Europe; the Iroquois were in central Asia. They declared war on me. Who cares? I'm also much bigger than he is. A couple of dozen turns later they ask for peace. Fine, whatever.

I then tried to cut a trade deal - and other civs won't go for it owing to "my broken promises" (or some such) with the Iroquois!! As usual, the stupid AI blames the human for something he never did.

Or maybe it's just another AI cheat to screw the human.

Whatever it is it stinks.

	17-06-2002 13:53									#3
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Coracle, is there anything you like about the game?

	17-06-2002 14:11									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Coracle Civ 3 grows on me - like a tumor.

Go see a doctor.

	17-06-2002 17:42									#5
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Coracle, is there anything you like about the game?

Good point. Either he actually loves the game (but also loves to whinge) or he genuinely hates it (in which case why's he here?)

	17-06-2002 17:51									#6
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I have no problem with people coming and telling their problems with Civ3. In fact, I am quite this kind myself.

Though, Coracle start to be a real pain, and I seldom bother to read him anymore. It's just the same over and over.

	17-06-2002 20:17									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Akka le Vil Though, Coracle start to be a real pain, and I seldom bother to read him anymore.

You mean people still do? I gave that up as a futile exercise long ago.

	17-06-2002 22:22									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Coracle Civ 3 grows on me - like a tumor. There are lots of examples of sloppy programming.

Try EU when that came out. There's a million games with sloppier programming.

quote: I have even seen AI governors (mine and theirs) build warships in 14 tile lakes, and that problem I thought was a thing of the past with Civ 2. Nope. They were too busy dreaming up Culture Flipping and other weird stuff.

Turn off governers

quote: I was playing an accurate world map with a dozen civs. I was in western Europe; the Iroquois were in central Asia. They declared war on me. Who cares? I'm also much bigger than he is. A couple of dozen turns later they ask for peace. Fine, whatever. I then tried to cut a trade deal - and other civs won't go for it owing to "my broken promises" (or some such) with the Iroquois!! As usual, the stupid AI blames the human for something he never did.

Then why do you still play the game?

	17-06-2002 22:45									#9
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Ive never had my governor switch my cities to a unit that was so obviously obsolete. I have that preference on that automatically builds the last unit built, and after building a city improvement it usually guesses the next item fairly well. Also, do you have the city 'pop-up' with the building selector so you can change it right away? That will give you immediate control.

Why arent Longbowman, Swordsman etc. taken out of the buy list when you can build something far greater ?

	17-06-2002 22:49									#10
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Shred: Swords and swords have no upgrades, so they never become obsolete. A good way to fix this is to mod both swordsmen and longbowmen to upgrade to riflemen.