17-06-2002 15:24									#31
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hard to say... Butt, Scholes, Sinclair, Beckham... Probably in that order.


Beckham can do some decent crosses and free-kicks from time to time at least. Good forbid that he would learn to play the ball on the ground or even dribble. Wouldn't be fair to put that kind of pressure on the chap.

	17-06-2002 15:26									#32
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What about the deft flick Butt created in order to set up Michael Owen against Denmark?

	17-06-2002 15:28									#33
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Yeah that was pretty OK. He had a great deal of luck with that one though. How do you say? One swallow doesn't make a summer.

	17-06-2002 15:29									#34
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And Sinclair put in the cross for him to flick on.

You're just unhappy because a team from an inferior continent knocked you out.

	17-06-2002 15:30									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's But anyway, WELL DONE USA! It's nice to see English-speakers progressing, especially with the unlucky demise of Ireland yesterday. BTW, did anyone watching BBC's coverage of the game notice how the commentators completely missed how Spain only had ten men for the whole of extra time?

And so did everyone, including you.

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	17-06-2002 15:32									#37
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Inferior for a racist ****-head like you maybe. If the UK didn't have a strict working-policy against non-EU players hardly a singel english player would play in a premier top club.

	17-06-2002 15:33									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's BTW, did anyone watching BBC's coverage of the game notice how the commentators completely missed how Spain only had ten men for the whole of extra time?

Did they? So they thought Spain ws playing that bad with 11 players?

	17-06-2002 15:34									#39
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Kropotkin, I meant footballingly inferior, that is obvious. Senegal are only getting so far because of the heat.

quote: Originally posted by Fiera Did they? So they thought Spain ws playing that bad with 11 players?

Yes. BBC's commentators were very critical of Spain's defensive play.

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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X And countries that don´t speak English as an official language aren´t worth ****? Really, Bodds... You get stupider by the minute. This troll is even too low to be rated with standard equipment...

What's wrong with supporting countries that have the same language as your country?

I support the Dutch too ( if they were in the WC ) and the Germans...

	17-06-2002 15:37									#41
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Oh so we're playing the "heat-card" again? Just like you did when Man U was trashed in the world championship for clubs or whatever. Senegal is a talented and good team that deserved to win the match against Sweden and also pretty much all team they've meet so far.

	17-06-2002 15:42									#42
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Senegal would go out in the group stages in a proper footballing climate.

	17-06-2002 15:43									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Assur What's wrong with supporting countries that have the same language as your country? I support the Dutch too ( if they were in the WC ) and the Germans...

Liberal political correctness.

	17-06-2002 15:43									#44
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And here we go. What kind of stupid cultural discourse is that really?

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's ?

well you commented after reading about it in the paper this morning and presented as 'did anyone see bbc comentator not noticing blah blah' as if you did....

	17-06-2002 16:26									#46
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Ohh just ignore the England haters bods, the results say more than their tiresome opinions ..

Saying that, Id hardly call Cameroon & Senegal inferior .. you run the risk of being as aragant as the argentinians were .. they thought the world cup belonged to them .. and even a draw against England was unconceivable .. look where they are now .

Every team in the last 16 got there because they deserved too .. and although some teams may have had a harder path than others, ultimatly, they have to win in the finals.

Id say Spains route is going to be the hardest, having to take on Italy, and Germany .. (assuming all results go as expected) before loosing to England in the finals

one can dream anyway..

	17-06-2002 16:37									#47
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USA! USA!

Great match. The US played some damned nice catenaccio. The Italian side would have been proud. Some great counterattacking led to two very nice goals (especially the first one, with Wolff having the presense of mind to lay the back back into space and have McBride run onto it)!

Of course Germany is probably where this train ends, but who knows eh?

	17-06-2002 16:38									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Assur What's wrong with supporting countries that have the same language as your country? I support the Dutch too ( if they were in the WC ) and the Germans...

It´s wrong when you say "English speaking people are better, just because they speak english" It just like saying "whites are better than blacks, just because they´re white"

	17-06-2002 16:43									#49
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I agree 100% Kamrat .. but is it wrong to support English speaking teams ??

I don't think anybody suggested that English speaking people were better than any other people .. did they ???

	17-06-2002 16:44									#50
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Oh, and I also laugh at those Euros who laughed when some Americans said that we know Mexico and have played them a lot. HARR HARR, we were right .

	17-06-2002 16:56									#51
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I would hope the US has played Mexico quite a lot, considering your neighbours .. and both in the N.American qualification rounds ..

However, you've beaten them when it most counts .. in the world cup ..

	17-06-2002 17:09									#52
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Viceroy, but look at the comments in the other (pick 'em) threads. Where this is another Mexican team, etc, etc. And your prior victories don't matter. Well, we showed they do .

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The US beat Mexico LONG before the world cup lol .

	17-06-2002 17:14									#54
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Exactly! In the last 5 years we have a great record against them. The Euros couldn't fathom that the US could win though . Mwahaha .

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I guess Germany will have a walk in the park

	17-06-2002 17:29									#56
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Sorry Imran, I wasn't going to go trawling for daft comments .. I think anybody that assumed the US were going to get hammered by Mexico didn't know what they were talking about.

I personally thought Mexico would scrape through, however, I was wrong, but then .. I never made such a deal about it ..

I would still think that Germany will win, but I would be more than happy if next Friday, your here to tell me how wrong I was ..

Do you think you'll be Germany ?? It is certainly possible ..were not talking about the same German team of old, they don't seem as strong in defense to me, but Germany always score in the last minute (like the Irish) and that is why I believe they will win.

	17-06-2002 17:38									#57
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Well done USA. Cheering the underdog is always good (that's why I got so involved in the Ireland/Spain match last night that I only got a few hours sleep before my exam today).

Here's to the WC final to remember - USA vs Senegal!

	17-06-2002 17:39									#58
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I know that this is not very sportsman-like but considering all the people who were betting against US in the "prediction" thread...

I told you so! I told so!

	17-06-2002 17:39									#59
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Considering how weak Germany was against Paraguay I wouldn't be suprised if the US could win against them as well. I didn't see the latest US game so I'm not 100% how good they are at the moment but Germany did not impress me.

This tournament has after all been full of well know teams that have been beaten by hard working, smart and brave new teams. Just look at the game at the moment. Belgium have the upper hand against Brazil.

	17-06-2002 17:50									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Belgium have the upper hand against Brazil.

Aw, I don't see it that way. They were unlucky with that one disallowed goal, but Brazil still shock ervyne- GOAL TO BRAZIL! 1-0