17-06-2002 18:03									#61
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Yes they just got a goal but how the hell can you in any way say that Brazil played any form of football before or after that?

	17-06-2002 18:24									#62
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quote: Originally posted by The Viceroy I agree 100% Kamrat .. but is it wrong to support English speaking teams ?? I don't think anybody suggested that English speaking people were better than any other people .. did they ???

I suppose you didn´t read the previous posts by Bodds?

	17-06-2002 18:25									#63
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Agreed. English should be happy that Brazil is through, they would have a tougher job cracking Belgium...

	17-06-2002 18:27									#64
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Bodds is a ignorant dock-head that's so in love with England that he has a french-speaking nationalist and proto-facist as an idol. Wouldn't take him seriously.

	17-06-2002 18:28									#65
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I don´t. I just like to poke fun at him whenever possible.

	17-06-2002 19:25									#66
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"I think a world cup success is wasted on the american people"

This is probably true. For some reason, I can't bring myself to be as excited as when I watch a regular Notre Dame - Michigan football game. But I think we all wish our team success.

	17-06-2002 19:32									#67
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imagine usa winning it (well its not so hard to imagine it anyway). there would be no celebrations whatsoever. now imagine senegal winning it. 15 days of partying.

	17-06-2002 19:35									#68
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"there would be no celebrations whatsoever."

Who knows. We could have a riot or two.

	17-06-2002 20:44									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Bodds is a ignorant dock-head that's so in love with England that he has a french-speaking nationalist and proto-facist as an idol. Wouldn't take him seriously.

Says the guy with a murderous anarchist as his handle.

	17-06-2002 20:53									#70
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Viceroy: Don't worry you don't have to go looking, just was saying is all . And I agree they were daft. Because I knew we play them every year, and we play them tough, and lately we've been beating them a lot!

quote: Do you think you'll be(at) Germany ??

Not sure. It'll be close, though. Germany is a scary team. Klose has great finishing and we'll have to contain him. Maybe if we play the catenaccio we played today we could get some good counterattacking. Ultimatly though, I think this run ends in the Quarterfinals (then again, I though Mexico would beat the US in Golden Goal) 2-1.

	17-06-2002 20:55									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Kropotkin, I meant footballingly inferior, that is obvious. Senegal are only getting so far because of the heat.

That is nonsense, my friend. When playing in extra time, the players from Senegal were more tired than the Swedes. The game was played in about 30 degrees Celsius. The Senegal players are very good, it has nothing to do with tolerating heat better.

Carolus

	17-06-2002 21:02									#72
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Absolutely. Don't underestimate Senegal.

	17-06-2002 22:15									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus I guess Germany will have a walk in the park

Hey Saint Marcus, remember when you said the USA wouldn't make it out of the First Round?
You are just as wrong about sports as you are about politics!

Holland didn't even qualify for the World Cup, and the USA is in the 3rd round! Goes to show the USA is better then Holland at soccer(football where you are).

	17-06-2002 22:52									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Inferior for a racist ****-head like you maybe. If the UK didn't have a strict working-policy against non-EU players hardly a singel english player would play in a premier top club.

The English FA have never discriminated against ANY foreign national playing in the league. The requirement for a work permit is similar to most other EU countries.

Compare this to UEFA, and individual European leagues, that prevented more than a set number foreigners to partake in a game. Those rules really screwed me over when playing Championship Manager 2 - I bought an all star team for Inter Milan, then found I couldn't play more than three of them in any game!!!.

	17-06-2002 23:09									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Says the guy with a murderous anarchist as his handle.

Sorry to bust your bubble. Kropotkin hardly hurt a fly in his entire life.

As for inferior or not. The Senegalese players all play in France and have thus far showed up quite a decent tactical sence. Tactical sence isn't the same as boring though.

I'd think England in many ways are more inferior. Outdated managers, inferiour training, unprofessional attitude and bad diets amoungst the players...

	17-06-2002 23:12									#76
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Sagacious Dolphin: That information is outdated. Haven't played CM 01/02, have we?

	17-06-2002 23:13									#77
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2-0 to us next game.

	17-06-2002 23:16									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Sagacious Dolphin: That information is outdated. Haven't played CM 01/02, have we?

That's why I wrote it in the past tense, and referred to the old version.

I have 01/02, but never get time to play it anymore.

	17-06-2002 23:17									#79
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what is 01/02? is it like 14/18?

	17-06-2002 23:20									#80
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There IS a huge difference between England and other countries as you pretty much need 10 caps and still be a active player in the national side to get a work permit in England. The last time i can remember this was Milan Baros that Liverpool had to delay the purchase of for half a year or so until he reached the number of caps needed. As far as I know no other states or FA:s have that kind of rule.

	17-06-2002 23:21									#81
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Ec,

As in Championship Manager season 2001/2002.

	17-06-2002 23:27									#82
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Somewhere in the stadium, 2016...

*kaboom, kaboom*

How could the WC escalate like that?

CHRONICLES OF 2014-2018

THE ERA BECKENBAUER

and so on...

	17-06-2002 23:38									#83
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ehh come again?

	17-06-2002 23:40									#84
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inside joke.

	17-06-2002 23:44									#85
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Nice way to cover up that you where completely lost there Echt.

	17-06-2002 23:45									#86
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not lost any where. SD knows what I'm talking about.

	17-06-2002 23:52									#87
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Germany trounce the Netherlands and Belgium in the group stages. After a heroic battle the Germans defeat the Russians to get to the final, but have a nil-nil draw with France as both sides turn defencive - the game goes to extra time. France win on penalties only after the English ref and US linesman disallow a German goal.

	18-06-2002 00:00									#88
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exactly.

	18-06-2002 00:16									#89
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When we beat Germany 5-1, the headline read "Germany conquered, now onto Japan".

	18-06-2002 02:26									#90
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Great games over the long weekend...

The US game was the lead story this morning on ESPN's Sportscenter and when showing the opening goal highlight they played the Univision broadcast with Andreas Cantor yelling in spanish instead of their own english coverage - it was hysterical.

It was also the lead topic of conversation around the office - everyone was asking the guys that watched the game for analysis.

Official US team gear is sold out nationwide except for odd sizes and off beat items.

America loves an underdog who tries really hard and beats a more talented opponent. The IIRC the voted-on best sporting moment of the 20th century here was the amature hockey players winning the gold medal in 1980.



The US plays best when we counter attack because we can't string together more than four passes, but we are quick and for once we seem to be able to finish! Also we seem to be doing better at creating chances from set pieces in the last year or so.

We still don't have the raw skill levels that most teams do, but we are athletic and have a tremendous desire fueled by a universal lack of respect - at home and abroad. This year is a bit of a fluke, but watch out - ten years from now we will be seriously competative and get to crash out of qualifying like Holland.

god I am sleepy... no Champ Manager 01/02 tonight.