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Do you think that my proposal is an acceptable addition to help prevent problems rega
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Trip
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Hunt Valley
Apr 2002
time: 00:20
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I call for a vote upon an official addition to our Constitution regarding polls.
Question:
Do you think that my proposal is an acceptable addition to help prevent problems regarding polling?
Options:
Yes, No
Expiration:
5 Days
Description:
These are very basic rules to make things fairer for both sides. This is not a radical proposal that is trying to conform everything and everyone to a strict set of rules, but merely an attempt to gain some sort of fairness. I believe that in order for polls to be more useful to us, we have to have rules that must be abided by for the sake of fairness and simplicity. Lately, there have been many incidents of people disagreeing over poll results, and something must be done. More often than not, it's been a race to see which side can get a poll up for an issue and slash the other side's view to promote its own in the first post and in the question/answers. The way things are really isn’t fair, and should be changed. This is the purpose of this poll. I propose the following as an official addition to our proposed Constitution:
Introduction:
Polls may be conducted in an ‘unofficial’ format to simply gain information, but CANNOT be used in any official decisions. All of the following rules are regarding ‘official’ polls, which may or may not be used as official results for the actual game. Any unofficial polls must be labeled as so within the first post.
General Rules:
Each official poll should have its rules laid out, as well as a form of expiration, either when a certain event takes place (i.e. ‘when the game starts’), or a time limit (i.e. ‘5 days’). This is to prevent the occurrence of an incident such as if doesn’t include an expiration, and says 3 weeks later "well this poll said this" kind of thing, and use its results officially. Each poll should lay out the potential options, as well as the question in a clear format. The required inclusions for the post are: an expiration date/event, a fair, clear and concise, unbaised question which addressed the issue of the poll, and a general description of what your poll entails. Instead of a description if you wish to post a link to another thread to give a description, that is acceptable as well.
Those who wish to put up a poll are strongly recommended to first discuss the issue in another thread, and bounce around possible options for voting. If someone feels that a poll could have been better made as a 'grouping' poll, or a 'yes/no' poll, then it may be deemed invalid.
Length of a Poll
Each poll must be open for a minimum of 3 days. This allows enough time for the majority of our members to see the poll and vote in it. Any poll open or taking results in less than 3 days is invalid. This includes 'spur of the moment' polls, that say something like 'This poll ends when turn 5 starts', but turn 5 starts in 2 days instead of 3 - this poll would be invalid.
Fairness and Neutrality:
The first post in a poll thread should be completely neutral. No options are to be suggested for voting, just what each option entails in an unbiased format. The same is true for the voting options. While poking fun at an option will probably be acceptable, if someone thinks that it interferes with a voter’s decision, then they may deem it invalid. If you show bias in your options, then it is no longer fair. So be warned, if your poll is a landslide one way and should win but someone feels that the options you presented are unfair and calls for a validity vote, if it’s deemed invalid your poll is useless.
Poll Format:
Each official poll MUST include either a ‘yes/no’ format, or a ‘group’ format, where similar options are grouped together, where the winning option within the group with the most votes is the official winner. The only time these formats do not have to be followed is in true multiple-choice polls, i.e. ‘Which Civilization should we be: Egyptians, Persians. Etc.’ In these cases, a simple ‘yes/no’ or ‘grouping’ poll does not suffice.
Repolling:
If someone wants to conduct a repoll, then it must be created at least 3 weeks following the initial poll. If a repoll is created before 3 weeks has passed, then that poll is immediately invalid. If a poll is an alternative poll, offering alternatives to decisions made in a previous poll, then it also must be conducted at least 3 weeks following the first poll, or be immediately deemed invalid. Any poll that's general purpose is the same or similar as another poll will be considered a repoll.
Length of Validity:
Poll results are valid until either a repoll is conducted, or an optional expiration on the results of the poll is included (either from an event or a time limit). In any other case, the results of a poll are official until the end of the game.
Invalidity of a Poll:
If these rules are not abided by, anyone may consider the poll invalid. If someone believes a poll to not be following these rules and declares it invalid, then a vote may be conducted among the elected officials listed in the ‘Current Administration’ thread to be either ‘valid’ or ‘invalid’. If the poll is deemed invalid, then its results cannot be used for any official purposes regarding the game. A poll deemed invalid cannot be voted on again unless it abides by the rules regarding a repoll.
[EDIT]A couple spelling and grammar corrections.[/EDIT]
[EDIT2]Added section about length of time that an official poll must be open for.[/EDIT2]
Last edited by Trip on 17-06-2002 at 23:00
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MrWhereItsAt
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New Year's Resolution: 2005 is the year of Where It's At - come get some.
Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Trip
It is a majority vote though, it just simplifies the process and allows for many fewer polls. For example, on turn limits, without grouping, I would have to hold 2 polls. One that asked 'should we have limited or unlimited terms?', and then if limited won, then another 'how many terms should an official be limited to?' As you can see, it reduces the number of polls and the amount of time needed to conduct them, while still allowing for majority rule. |
Yes, I do take your point, but I would still say that poll would have an option for infinite, and other options for the various numbers 1, 2, 3 turns etc. Or, you could have one multi-option poll. Vote for either infinite or limited, and also vote for a number. That way, if limited wins, you have a number that a majority of ALL voters preferred. If infinite wins, then the numbers are unimportant.
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:20
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Originally posted by notyoueither
Trip. If you want to formalize the invalidation of polls, then a solution other than the Executive judging it's own polls is needed.
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hi ,
 , good point , Trip , the senate could do the pole's , this way you just say , a ploe about this or that , and they would work out all the Q's , it would save some work on the president also , ...
have a nice day
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17-06-2002 21:58
Commendable effort to make polls unbiased. This proposal has my full support. I am beginning to regret voting for the banana 
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