19-06-2002 14:06									#1
	Should we have an honours system ? Put an end to popups!

I was thinking, wouldn't it be nice if we could have a system of reward for citizens who over time significantly contribute to the life of our nation in a big way.

Special rewards could be made to citizens who suggest a strategy (not considered, but accepted) which prooves to be critical to our success in

Military
Economic
Cultural

terms..

Maybe the honours can be handed out by the leadership when such a citizen becomes obvious, or suggested by any citizen.

Citizens could wear their honours in there sig or title

What do you think ?

	19-06-2002 14:14									#2
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im pro to it.
other honour ideas:

General matters:
For all matters generally in favor of the game, like forum work, organizational work etc. which do not fall in the other categories

Out-Of-Nation Award:
We will also need an award for non-citizens.

A Hall of fame could be implemented.

Also, in the Honour Medals we will need a ranking system. Example: Let the military medal be the "shot star". Citizen A did something good in military aspect (won a big battle), but Citizen B did something even bigger (like reorganized our military, defended a major attack and then won a whole campaign). Citizen A should have the medal for example in bronze as Citizen B should have it for example in gold.

	19-06-2002 14:35									#3
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All it needs is for somebody from the Leadership group to get something formal agreed, so that we all know how to suggest a person for an honour, and we know what honours are actually available.

	19-06-2002 14:41									#4
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quote: Originally posted by disorganizer im pro to it. other honour ideas: General matters: For all matters generally in favor of the game, like forum work, organizational work etc. which do not fall in the other categories Out-Of-Nation Award: We will also need an award for non-citizens. A Hall of fame could be implemented. Also, in the Honour Medals we will need a ranking system. Example: Let the military medal be the "shot star". Citizen A did something good in military aspect (won a big battle), but Citizen B did something even bigger (like reorganized our military, defended a major attack and then won a whole campaign). Citizen A should have the medal for example in bronze as Citizen B should have it for example in gold.

I agree with honour system, but I don't think we should have different levels of honours. I'm not very fond of *ANYTHING* that classifies one citizen over another.

Yes, citizens who have done something significant should be recognized. But IMO, we should just have an "honorary citizen award".

	19-06-2002 15:12									#5
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I think giving honours to your citizens enriches the experience of citizenship ..

I think honours are acceptable, as long as they are seen by all to be deserved .. and in that way, what is an honour to receive doesn't underpin an elitist society .. where a inner circle of people have more say that others, based on the fortune of being given an award in the past.

	19-06-2002 16:16									#6
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So i interpret you post as:
A honour-system is good, if polls are held wheter a citizen is given a special honour?

Well, i saw this implemented somewhere (i forgot where ;-) ).
A nomination-Thread, where any1 could nominate any citizen for a honour (list of possible honours was provided in 1st post). Then, the honour-responsible person started a vote on the issue (like "should we award xyz the honour abc?" yes/no/abstain). The reason why the citizen should have this honour should be included in the 1st post of the poll and in the nomination.

	19-06-2002 16:59									#7
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I think thats a fair system, it will allow any citizen to suggest an individual and vote for the level of award ..

	19-06-2002 17:57									#8
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Polls might be a little too much. I say let some government body give the award. If people don't like their choices, then they'd get voted out. We'd have to watch for corruption though. Corruption might be less than with polls though.

	19-06-2002 18:01									#9
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why? we wont award too many citizens (hopefully, as will will otherwise run out of awards).
so if we have 1 more poll per week? does it matter?

	19-06-2002 18:24									#10
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People might just vote for their friends. You don't have to give reasons when you are voting in polls. A government body would have to explain its decisions.

	19-06-2002 19:14									#11
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quote: Originally posted by The Viceroy I was thinking, wouldn't it be nice if we could have a system of reward for citizens who over time significantly contribute to the life of our nation in a big way. Special rewards could be made to citizens who suggest a strategy (not considered, but accepted) which prooves to be critical to our success in Military Economic Cultural terms.. Maybe the honours can be handed out by the leadership when such a citizen becomes obvious, or suggested by any citizen. Citizens could wear their honours in there sig or title What do you think ?

hi ,

, okay , but how could it be implemented , ...

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 19:44									#12
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That was why I raised the thread Panag, to get people's idea's ..

I don't think such a thing should be common at all, award only when something worthy of an honour is completed.

I see your point Apocalypse, im not so certain what would be the best way , I guess simple is best ..

Last thing I want to see is an award a week .. and that is my concern, that there is no value in it ..

Its certainly a good idea to hold the leadership team responsible .. maybe we can petition them to consider an individual via polls ... but let them officially recognise an individual.

Also, what kind of awards would be best decided at the top also.

	19-06-2002 20:03									#13
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hi ,

, a cap , read medal for meritious service ...
a t-shirt for cultural victory in 2000 , ...

should it be something like that , .....

have a nice day

	19-06-2002 20:09									#14
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i dont like this idea. the only people who really make a difference in the game are ministers. they already have something to flaunt. it is an honor to be elected to a position, even if you win in a landslide over a fruit. . also, if there were several different kinds of awards, dont you think that in the long run, like a year, you would have 5 people with EVERY award that we have made up?

	20-06-2002 05:56									#15
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , , okay , but how could it be implemented , ... have a nice day

First of all, we'd have to elect a commitee. Because the government would not be politically independent and so not fit for this task. Actually, we shouldn't put any additional tasks upon them. This commitee could consist of 5 elected members, and could pick one citizen each week who has contributed most to:
1. the cause of democracy
2. strategic progress/planning
3. description and upgrades to the society.

3 pillars which this commitee is to be responsible for following, when they make a decision per PM.

Ok, we could post a poll on this to happen.
Any views at this moment?

	20-06-2002 14:39									#16
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Although there may well be a place for an honours list based per week/month or whatever, I was thinking more of a system which gives awards only when something quite outstanding is acheived .. eg .. CitizenX suggests a military tactic not thought of yet, which not only convinces everybody, but goes on to save our buts/win the war .. or maybe halfway though, we may discover that a innocent idea earlier on in the game, turned out to be crucial .. the suggestor would be honoured ..

Id expect these things to come along a few times within a single game ..

A weekly honours list could act as promoting a status .. a bit like our dearly beloved -- Settler/Cheiftan/Warlord/Prince etc ... but It maybe should not be kind of Honour I was originally thinking of.

	20-06-2002 20:58									#17
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I say we keep it informal. For example, someone creates a poll asking whether or not this person should get an honor award etc.

	20-06-2002 22:33									#18
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i say we keep it simple if someone does something very good, well thats great, vote for them in the next election. if a minister does something outstanding, well thats why we voted for them. re-elect them next term!

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