19-06-2002 20:11									#1
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Quick question:

Does anyone know of a way to see another Civ's total culture, besides investigating each and every city of that civ and adding it up?

I only recently realized/remembered that you can see your total culture on the culture screen, and wondered if I had missed something in regard to a way to check out other civs.

	19-06-2002 20:51									#2
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Nope, not that I know of. The best you can do is either eyeball it with the graph or investigate their cities.

-Arrian

	19-06-2002 22:15									#3
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Maybe the answer he's looking for is what Arrian mentioned -- there is a picture of it on the graph page that you find by clicking on a tab near the bottom.

	19-06-2002 22:46									#4
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not really, it's the exact number of total culture that needs to be found. The histograph only gives an indication.

In previous installments (at least in SMAC), creating an embassy meant that you could see all of the other civs advisory screens, but while it may be good that that was not included in CivIII, it's a shame that you can't get more info. Someone's cultural overview, together with trade and the allocation of money(maintenance, corruption, science rate) would have been things I'd gladly pay a spy for...

DeepO

	19-06-2002 22:55									#5
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It would be helpful, if the stats for power and culture would show up on the right hand side of the histograph, once you select them.

Now you can only get a vague indication from the histograph, and some more hints from the wonder screen and the demographics screen.

	19-06-2002 23:02									#6
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"impressed" -> less than twice their culture
"awe" -> between 2x and 3x
...

Where was that information?

And yes, it would be VERY helpful if we had numerical info. As it is, I have taken a ruler to try to measure it on the F8 culture screen.

	19-06-2002 23:14									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe Where was that information?

If that was a question to me (I'm not sure), in SMAC you could "infiltrate datalinks" with a probe team (it wasn't called an embassy, sorry 'bout that). That would give you all information on the faction, and keep it available to you. You could even see all cities (which was a bit too much, if you ask me).

quote: And yes, it would be VERY helpful if we had numerical info. As it is, I have taken a ruler to try to measure it on the F8 culture screen.

A ruler... the simplest solutions never occur to me. I've been measuring with my thumb, or other fingers if I needed a smaller measure unit. I'm going to buy a ruler to measure it, though (haven't used one in years)

DeepO

	19-06-2002 23:40									#8
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DeepO,
I was referring to "where was that info that tells us 'impressed' means less than 2x their culture ..."

	19-06-2002 23:42									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe DeepO, I was referring to "where was that info that tells us 'impressed' means less than 2x their culture ..."

That's in the editor on the culture tab.

	20-06-2002 00:17									#10
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One of these days I'm actually going to have to check out this editor thingy.

Can you edit the values, and how many do you have to work with?

	20-06-2002 00:18									#11
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edited out... I'm totally confused

DeepO

	20-06-2002 02:47									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Fitz One of these days I'm actually going to have to check out this editor thingy. Can you edit the values, and how many do you have to work with?

There are 6 statuses:
in awe of (3:1)
admirers of (2:1)
impressed with (1:1)
unimpressed by (3:4)
dismissive of (1:2)
disdainful of (1:3)

You can rename them and/or change their values. You can also add new values, which could help you to get a more accurate statement from the advisor, although I didn't try that yet.

If you have checked it out, and it improves the advisors judgement, let me know

	20-06-2002 03:17									#13
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Yeah, I think I may just edit the value and add some new ones with descriptive name (ie 3/4 of, 2x).

I think ones for:
1:4, 1:3, 2:5, 1:2, 3:4, 4:5, 1:1 and all the revese of the first 6.

Don't you have to start the game as a scenario to used the modded values though?