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My Wife Hates CIV is offline My Wife Hates CIV
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Many have probably seen this. Thought it was kinda funny. Got spare money?

To ensure we Americans never offend anyone - particularly fanatics intent on killing us - airport screeners will not be allowed to profile people. They will continue random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members of the President's security detail and 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips.

In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by: A) Olga Corbutt
B) Sitting Bull
C) Arnold Schwartzeneger
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by: A) Lost Norwegians
B) Elvis
C) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by: A) John Dillinger
B) The King of Sweden
C) The Boy Scouts
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by: A) A pizza delivery boy
B) Pee Wee Herman
C) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
A) The Smurfs
B) Davy Jones
C) The Little Mermaid
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver was murdered by:
A) Captain Kidd
B) Charles Lindbergh
C) Mother Teresa
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: A) Scooby Doo
B) The Tooth Fairy
C) Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid who had a few sticks of dynamite left over from a train job.
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by: A) Richard Simmons
B) Grandma Moses
C) Michael Jordan
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by: A) Mr. Rogers
B) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
C) The World Wrestling Federation to promote its next villain: "Mustapha the Merciless"
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and thousands of innocent people were killed by:
A) Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd B) The Supreme Court of Florida
C) Mr. Bean
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2001 and 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against: A) Enron
B) The Lutheran Church
C) The NFL
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by: A) Bonny and Clyde
B) Captain Kangaroo
C) Billy Graham
D) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

Hmmm . . . nope, no patterns anywhere to justify profiling that I can see.

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I have been told that there are some Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 who're not involved in terrorism.

I'm not sure of course if that's a urban legend,
but for the case of these 6 brave civilians, you just simply cannot screen on Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40. #doitnow#

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Yes, of course, every terrorist act ever committed has been done by Muslim Arabs.

Oh, except for the Oklahoma City bombing. And family planning clinic bombings. And eco-terrorism. And that dirty-bomb suspect fella; of course, he was Hispanic, that's brown, practically the same thing as being an Arab.


Bullshit like this shows that racism is alive and well in our country. You know, 20 years ago today, a man named Vincent Chin was beaten to death with a baseball bat in Detroit because he was Asian. His murderers got off with a few years probation and nominal fines.

20 years. Does anybody really think that sort of horseshit couldn't happen again today when anti-Arab, anti-Muslim vitriol like this is embraced and held up as patriotism?

Disgusting.

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I just fired up my cc:mail at work and had this waiting. I thought this could offend someone. We have many contractors from all over the world. With all the diveristy training crap we've gone through...

still, you've got to wonder...

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They'll just use that profiling against us by recruiting people who lie outside that profile. Profiling is like saying - "HEY! TERRORISTS! DONT BE STUPID AND BREAK ONTO PLANES WITH 17-40 yr old ARAB MEN!"

Besides its hard to discriminate based on religion like you say. Not all Arabs are Muslims and vice versa.

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it's funny but wrong at the same time

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It's perfectly ok to profile against 17-40 year old male Muslim extremists. The key word is extremists. What is being done is profiling against all 17-40 year old male Muslims.

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i dont like it.its offending for the muslims
"thumbs down"

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The fact that they caught the dirty bomb guy tells that they are prepared for others than 17-40 year old muslim extremists being terrorists.
And watching over young arab males seems to be pretty futile, how many muslim terrorist have they caught since 9/11?

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Originally posted by Guynemer


Yes, of course, every terrorist act ever committed has been done by Muslim Arabs.

Oh, except for the Oklahoma City bombing. And family planning clinic bombings. And eco-terrorism. And that dirty-bomb suspect fella; of course, he was Hispanic, that's brown, practically the same thing as being an Arab.


Bullshit like this shows that racism is alive and well in our country. You know, 20 years ago today, a man named Vincent Chin was beaten to death with a baseball bat in Detroit because he was Asian. His murderers got off with a few years probation and nominal fines.

20 years. Does anybody really think that sort of horseshit couldn't happen again today when anti-Arab, anti-Muslim vitriol like this is embraced and held up as patriotism?

Disgusting.


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It's perfectly ok to profile against 17-40 year old male Muslim extremists. The key word is extremists. What is being done is profiling against all 17-40 year old male Muslims.


But what's wrong with stopping all 17-40 year old Muslims at airports??? It's only the extermists that are problems and that's a small few... but, what's the problem checking out all - just because they are Muslims?? Would'nt they feel better boarding a plane also. Just because you're Muslim does not mean you'll mind any less when extermists blow up the plane you're on. And if you're Muslim and do not like it... well, stay home I guess. Is there a problem with that??

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Ummm... yeah, obviously there's a problem with that. But it's even a bigger problem that you deny such a problem exists.

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Yes, of course, every terrorist act ever committed has been done by Muslim Arabs.

Oh, except for the Oklahoma City bombing. And family planning clinic bombings. And eco-terrorism. And that dirty-bomb suspect fella; of course, he was Hispanic, that's brown, practically the same thing as being an Arab.

Bullshit like this shows that racism is alive and well in our country. You know, 20 years ago today, a man named Vincent Chin was beaten to death with a baseball bat in Detroit because he was Asian. His murderers got off with a few years probation and nominal fines.

20 years. Does anybody really think that sort of horseshit couldn't happen again today when anti-Arab, anti-Muslim vitriol like this is embraced and held up as patriotism?

Disgusting.


Brilliant PC comments-keep your head in the sand, I'm sure everything will be OK.

No one can deny that almost all of the terrorist acts that effect the US are committed by arabs. We cant check every individual entering this country. Therefore, profiling is a necessary evil in this case. It doesnt mean that nobody else should be checked though.

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No one can deny that almost all of the terrorist acts that effect the US are committed by arabs. We cant check every individual entering this country. Therefore, profiling is a necessary evil in this case. It doesnt mean that nobody else should be checked though.


I can and will deny it. Most terrorist acts committed within the borders of the United States have been committed by white male Americans.

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The fact that they caught the dirty bomb guy tells that they are prepared for others than 17-40 year old muslim extremists being terrorists.


The dirty bomb guy was a Puerto Rican muslim extremist.....

You know how fanatical converts are

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Maybe it's wrong... of course it is. But, if I'm sitting on a plane and 4 young muslim males board, I'm getting off. I mean, look what happened last time. Does that make me a bad person?! Yeah, there is something wrong with that but it's not my fault. I'm not saying they CAN'T fly - just not with me. And I'm the one willing to get off the plane. And I DO want to see them screened. Every single one of them. I have no problem going to the middle east and being screened myself - if I where to go to the middle east.

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N E W Y O R K, June 20 — Police and fire officials in New York are being warned that terrorists may be trying to acquire surplus or replica emergency vehicles to use as car bombs that could be planted near government buildings or landmarks without drawing attention.

A law enforcement source confirmed a report in The New York Daily News today that officials were alerted to the plot when two unidentified Middle Eastern men tried to buy a replica ambulance at a northern New Jersey shop that builds copies of emergency vehicles, police cars and fire trucks.



oh well... maybe next time they willl be white americans.

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I can and will deny it. Most terrorist acts committed within the borders of the United States have been committed by white male Americans.


Perhaps you should read what I wrote.

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The attack against the USS Cole was left out of the list

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The attack against the USS Cole was undertaken by:

a) Boris Godunov
b) MWHC
c) SpencerH
d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


...better?

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Maybe it's wrong... of course it is. But, if I'm sitting on a plane and 4 young muslim males board, I'm getting off. I mean, look what happened last time.


What happened the last time four young Muslim males got on a plane? I'm gonna bet the farm that the plane took off, flew, and landed all safely, according to schedule.

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Does that make me a bad person?!


Not at all. Just needlessly afraid, and ignorant.

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I'm not saying they CAN'T fly - just not with me. And I'm the one willing to get off the plane. And I DO want to see them screened. Every single one of them. I have no problem going to the middle east and being screened myself - if I where to go to the middle east.


What you're saying here can easily be interpreted as meaning "Arabs don't belong in the U.S. They belong in the Middle East." (I'm assuming you mean Arabs instead of Muslims, since religion isn't something you can determine just by looking at a person.)

So what exactly constitutes a "normal American" for you? Can black people be on your plane? East Asian? Hispanic? Remember, the dirty bomb suspect is Hispanic. How about Indian? First Nations? Help me out here; I want to know what an American is.

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The attack against the USS Cole was undertaken by:

a) Boris Godunov
b) MWHC
c) SpencerH
d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


...better?



Whah! I've been found out! *Runs off*

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The attack against the USS Cole was undertaken by:

a) Boris Godunov
b) MWHC
c) SpencerH
d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


...better?



yeah

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Guynemer, what's wrong with checking this kind of people extra ?

If the last 10 years much terrorism has been caused by blonde 24 year old dutch men, I really wouldn't feel offended if they'll double check me at the airport.

As long as they 'll let me go through when all seems to be fine.

Pherhaps you can reward these people by giving them an extra drink or something.

CS

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Perhaps you should read what I wrote.


Okay, "effected," fine. I still say more terrorist acts that have "effected" the U.S. have not been committed by Muslims. Was the deadliest? Of course. But acts of domestic terrorism alone make the above list look puny. It's just that such acts aren't as well-publicized, because we're already being conditioned to look for the darn dirty foreigner as the culprit. I can remember the shock when people learned Okla. City was done by a white guy. Everyone was sure it would be a Muslim terrorist. I wasn't shocked at all. We have had militia nuts and religious whackos committing acts of terrorism for years.

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N E W Y O R K, June 20 — Police and fire officials in New York are being warned that terrorists may be trying to acquire surplus or replica emergency vehicles to use as car bombs that could be planted near government buildings or landmarks without drawing attention.

A law enforcement source confirmed a report in The New York Daily News today that officials were alerted to the plot when two unidentified Middle Eastern men tried to buy a replica ambulance at a northern New Jersey shop that builds copies of emergency vehicles, police cars and fire trucks.



oh well... maybe next time they willl be white americans.


Tell ya what, MWHC & SpencerH. I'll approve of profiling all Arab males just as soon as you allow yourselves to be searched every time you pass within 100 yards of an abortion clinic or a federal building. Do we have a deal?

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Maybe it's wrong... of course it is. But, if I'm sitting on a plane and 4 young muslim males board, I'm getting off. I mean, look what happened last time. Does that make me a bad person?! Yeah, there is something wrong with that but it's not my fault. I'm not saying they CAN'T fly - just not with me. And I'm the one willing to get off the plane. And I DO want to see them screened. Every single one of them. I have no problem going to the middle east and being screened myself - if I where to go to the middle east.


So lets see, since almost all serial killers are middle class white males age 25-35, if I see someone who matches this description, I should run away.

And what are you going to do. Stand at the boarding gate and count the people who look muslim?

Yup, there goes one now, no wait, I think he's a Lebanese Christian.

But that's guys defintely an Arab. No wait, he's got a Turkish passport so he's safe.

There's two more, and another one. Oh my God, they've got Saudi passports. Okay, I'm safe there's only three of them.

Oh ****, a fourth one just got on the plane. I'm getting off now.

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Let's make all muslims wear special arm bands so we can easily identify them, and if anything goes wrong we will know who to punish right away.

If that doesn't stop them from commiting terrorist acts, we could always round them all up and put them into ghettos and concentration camps. (maybe we could use the ones we built for the asians during WW2!)

 
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