20-06-2002 23:45									#1
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I've been considering many computer games out on the market right now, and I would like to hear opinions from people who have actually played them. I dont want to buy another dud like Tropico, which was only fun the first time or two playing.

Some games I've heard a lot of good things about, are they really good?
Empire Earth
Baldur's Gate 2

Some games I've seen that the concept sounds fun, but havent heard one way or the other if theyre actually good games:
Superpower
Freedom Force

Obviously being here I like strategy games like Civ3 and StarCraft. I also would like to find a good rpg to play, because I've had less and less time to play real life rpgs.

	21-06-2002 01:12									#2
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The best rpg will always be final fantasy 7. As for the other games you mentioned, I cant really help you. I havent played them yet because ive been too busy playing civ3! But i have also heard a lot of good things about empire earth.......

	21-06-2002 01:12									#3
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I found Empire Earth rather mediocre, but I'm not a big fan of rts games. (it has a pretty good editor, and the 3 historical campaigns were fun, but I stopped playing after finishing them )

Baldur's Gate 2 is in my top 3 of best rpg's together with Fallout 2 and Planescape Torment. It's even more fun if you've played BG 1.

I loved the idea behind Superpower but it turned out to be a horrible game

	21-06-2002 01:16									#4
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Europa Universalis 2.

	21-06-2002 01:23									#5
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quote: The best rpg will always be final fantasy 7.

Nope, that title goes to Fallout .

Baldur's Gate 2 is awesome though! Get it .

	21-06-2002 01:28									#6
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thanks for the input!

	21-06-2002 02:07									#7
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If you don't already have it, get Europa Universalis 2.


And do not get superpower under any circumstances!

	21-06-2002 02:12									#8
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Hmmm....

SomeOneElse
NotYouEither

DL??

	21-06-2002 02:41									#9
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Freedom Force is a great game. Well worth the money. Haven't even tried the MP games it supports yet...just solo campaign...and it was lots of fun.

	21-06-2002 02:50									#10
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buy Fallout 2 if you don't have it yet, should be cheap and it is a good game, Morrowind looks also good.
SuperPower is bugged as hell.

	21-06-2002 02:52									#11
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Pro Evolution Soccer.

	21-06-2002 03:15									#12
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Does the DL dance.





Just incase.

	21-06-2002 03:23									#13
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I'm playing System Shock 2 now. That's a fabulous RPG/FPS.

	21-06-2002 03:40									#14
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII Pro Evolution Soccer.

Absolutely positively the best soccer game ever made!

If you don't like soccer then don't touch it with a 40-foot pole, though.

	21-06-2002 06:50									#15
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quote: Hmmm.... SomeOneElse NotYouEither DL??

I'm no DL, I'm my own person, with my own thoughts and feelings.






I'm not really sad, but I'm also really not a DL

	21-06-2002 10:18									#16
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For RPGs, there are zillions of 'em waiting for you for free via emulation, if you're up for the console style. And BG2 or Planescape, as said before, are probably your best bets for computer-style.

	21-06-2002 15:20									#17
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Play BG 1 before BG 2, it makes the best thing, the story, even better. For a really good story get Planescape:Torment, though I would prefer BG over PT because BG lasts much longer.

	21-06-2002 15:51									#18
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If you are interested in FPS/RPG style games, I would recommend the following:
Thief 1
Thief 2
System Shock 2
Deus Ex

and when they are released, Thief 3 and Deus Ex 2. Potentially.

	21-06-2002 16:02									#19
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Final Fantasy VII, actually any Final Fantay, definitely better then the Fallouts.

You're gonna hate me for that but it's the truth.

Baldur's Gates come a close third.

And Imran, SS2 is great.

	21-06-2002 16:20									#20
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It may be your truth, but you clearly live in an alternate universe where the FF games don't include fast quantities of meaningless fights in which you get to watch the same guardian force cutscenes over and over and over and over again until you die of boredom. FF VII is the only one I have managed to complete and it has cured me for life from ever wanting to play another one again.

	21-06-2002 16:47									#21
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I bet very few of you have played the original final fantasy

I have, for the NES, and its the only one I ever beat.

I didnt get another video game console after SNES. I just stuck with computer games.

I might get a PS2 soon though, but thats not definate yet

	21-06-2002 18:48									#22
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quote: Originally posted by SomeOneElse I'm no DL, I'm my own person, with my own thoughts and feelings.

That's okay...Just go look in a mirror and tell NotYouEither that I said, "Hi."

Just kidding (I think)

For FPS I recommend System shock 2, and I'm playing Deux Ex now really cool. However, I really suck at FPS; lost my twitch skills. I never made past level 6 on SS2.

Even though I do not like Sierra, Halflife was good, and Homeworld was trippy.

I also just bought GTA3...Just need a socially acceptable outlet for that roadrage.

R:PM

	21-06-2002 22:02									#23
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SS2 is not an FPS!

	21-06-2002 22:13									#24
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Europa Universalis 2.

Absolutely brilliant game. . .

	21-06-2002 22:31									#25
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Ones I've been digging lately:

Grand Theft Auto 3: Pretty much the best world simulator ever made. Tight controls and fun (albet twisted/offensive) missions.

Hostile Waters: This one completely caught me off guard. Got it for 10 bucks at EB. Very much in the Battlezone/Uprising rts meets fps, but with some real nice twists. The only downside is the very scripted nature of the scenarios.

Soldier of Fortune 2: Single player is more fun that it should be and multiplayer is very kinetic (though not a lot of depth). Has an interesting feature in the random map generator.

Civ3: Play the World: You know something is going right when people are playing your game on their own time.

Jeff

	21-06-2002 22:51									#26
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Grumbold:

You have a very valid point there, and I do think that it's very disappointing that it has shunned away so many players.

The truth is, that the random encounters can be pure hell. FF VII has the least of them (heck, there's even an ability that removes them completely in it), at least from the games I have played, IV to IX.

But if you can discover a way to endure pass them, I for instance read a book and keep tapping the "Attack" button, you will find a very rich and enveloping experience. The plots, and the music for one, are truly awesome.

There really should be no need for them random encounters, as they are nothing filling the game, to make it last longer. I see no reason why the necessary leveling up couldn't be arranged with a more humane way.

	21-06-2002 22:58									#27
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII SS2 is not an FPS!

Huh? Admittingly there is a lot more there than only FPS. But it is FP for sure, then shooter then RPG....just seemed to have a lot of FPS elements....more than anything else.

	21-06-2002 23:13									#28
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So it has a lot of FPS elements. So does Thief.

	22-06-2002 00:03									#29
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII So it has a lot of FPS elements. So does Thief.

So your classification would be???

	22-06-2002 00:05									#30
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII SS2 is not an FPS!

so what if it isn't?

it's the same game no matter what genre somebody thinks it belongs to.

this reminds me of that old-and-pointless "Diablo 2 is not an RPG!" debate that people were having when it came out.