21-06-2002 05:32									#1
	Should Ministers Pick City Names First? Got spare money?

Due to many people suggesting this, I decided to make it a poll, since some people wanted Random/ministers 1st, but the votes split either way.

Question:
Should Ministers (in the order of Administration, in that thread) get to pick names for cities before everyone else (either random or joining order). Also, should we skip inactive members (I will PM whoever's turn it is next, if they don't reply within 10 days, then they lose their spot. The first ones who are picked to respond get to pick first)? If people vote to still include inactive members, then their names will be used exactly (for example, if I didn't reply within 10 days, then my city would be named "Trip").

Options:
Group 1 - Ministers should get first pick
- We should skip inactive members.
- We should simply use inactive members' names for the cities.

Group 2 - Ministers don't get first pick
- We should skip inactive members.
- We should simply use inactive members' names for the cities.

Expiration:
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	21-06-2002 05:38									#2
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first of all, i assume the president (you) is counted as a minister here

definitely yes. the ministers are the people most involved in this game. they deserve the first cities to be named after them.

	21-06-2002 05:40									#3
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I'm backing option 1-- ministers going first (in the order outlined in the Administration thread), then random, skipping over inactive members.

Basing activeness on responsiveness to PMs actually might work, since they could provide a reliable indicator as to whether one is still active or not. If based on posts, then we're ignoring people who just vote, but never state their opinions in posts.

Then again, am I assuming too much when I think that most of us have e-mail notification for PMs turned on?

	21-06-2002 05:45									#4
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I too agree with Group 1, Option A.

However, what about people who get PMed while on vacation? Perhaps people who are going for longer than 10 days could either PM a minister, or post it in a specific thread where it would get noticed by thee who PMs the populace.

I mean, I'm going to Newfieland for 2 weeks, so I don't want to come back and find I've missed my chance to name a city . I think that would be better than having someone who misses their chance saying it after the fact, 'cause then people who are generally inactive could use that as an excuse, when they didn't deserve their own city.

	21-06-2002 05:55									#5
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we're not going to name the cities after the people right? we're giving the people a chance to NAME it whatever tey want, right?

	21-06-2002 05:58									#6
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If they respond, then they can name it whatever they like. If they don't, then we either skip them, or use their name for the city (depending on how the vote goes).

	21-06-2002 05:58									#7
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skip them. (IMHO)

voted choice 1.

	21-06-2002 06:03									#8
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quote: Originally posted by SwitchMoO I too agree with Group 1, Option A. However, what about people who get PMed while on vacation? Perhaps people who are going for longer than 10 days could either PM a minister, or post it in a specific thread where it would get noticed by thee who PMs the populace. I mean, I'm going to Newfieland for 2 weeks, so I don't want to come back and find I've missed my chance to name a city . I think that would be better than having someone who misses their chance saying it after the fact, 'cause then people who are generally inactive could use that as an excuse, when they didn't deserve their own city.

Members who are known to be active will be given leniancy on this issue.

	21-06-2002 06:05									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Members who are known to be active will be given leniancy on this issue.

thats right. we should only pm people if there are any doubts about them being active...

	21-06-2002 06:08									#10
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k, good. Though we'll need to be PMed anyways to tell us it's our turn, and for us to reply with our city name.

	21-06-2002 16:23									#11
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Also, if you're a major active member you should say somewhere (maybe just as a ps to a post or something) when you're leaving. For example, I'll say now that I'm leaving to go to Utah the night of the 28th and returning July 10th.

	21-06-2002 17:57									#12
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Personally I believe that it should not be a prerogative to be able to name a city if you are a minister. Why should the military advisor get to name the a city we have just recently constructed, I can´t see why. If it were a city recently captured after some heavy fighting or a stunning victory, then yes, but otherwise no.
If a minister´s should get the right to name cities it should only be the president and then only one city for his entire tenure.

It should be simply the people, randomly chosen that decide upon the names. The ministers can simply get a lottery ticket like the rest of us and hope for the best.

	21-06-2002 17:58									#13
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And what happens when new elections are held? The order is screwed up? Ex-Ministers without cities lose their rights? What? WHAT!?!?!?!?
*cough*

	21-06-2002 21:30									#14
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Choice one.

I'll be on vacation from July 6 to July 13.

And Wojit, maybe we could have former minesters with no city have higher priority over other citezens.

	21-06-2002 22:07									#15
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Group 1-Choice 1

I'll be gone this weekend

	21-06-2002 22:45									#16
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hi ,

how do we define "inactive" citizens , ....

have a nice day

	21-06-2002 23:06									#17
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Yes, and we should skip inactive members.

I just want to say that, despite the problems I'm having now with my home computer, I'm still an active member and please do not forget me.

I'll probably won't be able to post or participate in the chat this weekend, because of the computer problems I mentioned above. But I guess that Sunday, June 23rd everything will be fine. Thanks for your understanding.

By the way, here's my email: alexandrenm@uol.com.br

P.S.: since we are playing Egypt, I'll be honored to be the first to name a city with some sense of historical accuracy.

	21-06-2002 23:18									#18
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I'm not a liberty to say when I'm going (my dad's paranoid), however I will PM you when I get back if I find a missed chance to name a city.

Well, you know I'm active, so you know I ain't cheatin' the system.

	22-06-2002 00:44									#19
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This has already been decided. It was decided that Random was the way to go in a previous poll. This poll is invalid. Note: I didn't vote for Random, I'm just enforcing the polling regulations.

	22-06-2002 00:49									#20
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I voted option 3 : NO, but we should skip inactive players.
This poll is useless, as random has already been decided. I fear the yeasayers are ministers or wanabee ministers who want to get more power than they already have.
This is a repoll in its scariest form , posted when the previous poll was still active. It is an antidemocratic way to go back on the people's decision.

	22-06-2002 00:54									#21
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Exactly, Spiffor. What I said

DOWN WITH EVIL ANTIDEMOCRATIC REPOLLS NOW!

	22-06-2002 00:55									#22
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Spiffor is perfectly right .

	22-06-2002 03:53									#23
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I agree with skywalker and spiffor (skywalker didn't you join teh DIA a while ago?)

	22-06-2002 03:55									#24
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quote: Originally posted by civman2000 I agree with skywalker and spiffor (skywalker didn't you join teh DIA a while ago?)

Actually he's a member of the Coalition, and our canidate for IE Minister.

	22-06-2002 04:00									#25
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Random. Keep inactive members because if they notice and want to change the name, it can always be changed later.

	22-06-2002 04:04									#26
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quote: Originally posted by GodKing Random. Keep inactive members because if they notice and want to change the name, it can always be changed later.

hi ,

maybe we should not use their names , because sooner or later someone is going to get upset , because his or her name is not on it , ....

have a nice day

	22-06-2002 04:12									#27
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The original poll was invalid, because it didn't include all the choices, as many in that thread pointed out. This poll is the result of popular demand for the cabinet to go first.

I'm not and probably will never be a cabinet minister, but the people who contribute the most to the game should have the right to go first.

If there is a change of government (like a new VP ) and the outgoing minister has not given a name yet, too bad. Go back into the pool. Successor ministers should take the place of the outgoing minister in the naming order (or go to the top of the list if all the old cabinet have already named a city).

	24-06-2002 11:04									#28
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Well, the poll is closed and option 1 wins. The Executives and Ministers will pick names for our cities in the order presented in the Administration Thread. Civman2000 has already picked, so I get the next pick. *Thinks* I've got to come up with a good name.

	24-06-2002 12:31									#29
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nothereeither

	24-06-2002 20:12									#30
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hi ,

what happens when we disband a city , ......
what happens when we capture a city , ......



have a nice day