22-06-2002 22:17									#61
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Wow. If I've gotten Sir Ralph's support (who I have been at odds with often), then I can be more confident about my chances of winning.

	22-06-2002 22:37									#62
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quote: Originally posted by punkbass2000 I agree, and am still uncertain why a worker was built.

I know, I was present in the turnchat. Trip asked what to build next after the city expanded. There was 1 turn left either for Warrior or Worker. Eli yelled "Worker", I opposed, but as you know I am not a member of the staff and my opinion doesn't matter. Since nobody else opposed, a Worker was built and a pop point wasted. Oh well, not really. We need lots of workers for the glorious jungle city we plopped.

	22-06-2002 22:50									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I know, I was present in the turnchat. Trip asked what to build next after the city expanded. There was 1 turn left either for Warrior or Worker. Eli yelled "Worker", I opposed, but as you know I am not a member of the staff and my opinion doesn't matter. Since nobody else opposed, a Worker was built and a pop point wasted. Oh well, not really. We need lots of workers for the glorious jungle city we plopped.

Hey, hey, hey!

The build queue was decided before the turnchat, I just reminded Trip that "if i'm not mistaken, Apolyton should be building a worker now".

	22-06-2002 22:54									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Hey, hey, hey! The build queue was decided before the turnchat, I just reminded Trip that "if i'm not mistaken, Apolyton should be building a worker now".

tis true. it was decided ahead of time.

we needed a warrior or a woker, as apolyton was going to be a 2 with no defender.

the City Planner (DIA, CTED) chose a worker.

	22-06-2002 23:01									#65
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Then I wonder why he's just wondering why a worker was built.

	22-06-2002 23:12									#66
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker If I am elected IE Minister, I promise not to support more jungle cities.

hi ,

still , in that part of the world there may be coal , ...

we should put some small city's there , who grow slowly , but ones the terrain around them is finished , reforested , irrigated and so on , ...

then later it shall pay of , ....

we should look at them as a long term investment , ...

have a nice day

	22-06-2002 23:14									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Then I wonder why he's just wondering why a worker was built.

because maybe HE didnt make the call.

according to THIS THREAD, the CTED report for 3300 BC, the queue is set, and approved by Timeline (in the screenshot).

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&highlight=CTED

if punkbass can't remember making that call, maybe he didn't make it at all, maybe Timeline made it for him.

interesting timeline may have overstepped his bounds and tried to manipulate the CTED. also not punkbass is nowhere in that thread.

and now he's going for VP...

	22-06-2002 23:35									#68
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and to quote Linney in the thread:

quote: Punk, after the 2 warriors we are going to NEED workers. I know you would rather build settlers, but what good are they if there is no good land to settle? After the 2 warriors I suggest: 1 Worker, 1 Settler.

	22-06-2002 23:55									#69
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hi ,

UberKruX , , it might not be such a bad order of units , ....

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	23-06-2002 01:04									#70
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I think we should explore further to the north

this will HOPEFULLY give some good land

also... we need more soldiers even if you only expect to trade techs with france they wont respect us and will charge sky high prices for techs if we dont have military

well ive never played emperor but still...

	23-06-2002 01:13									#71
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Prices for tech don't depend on attitude or presence of military. But they might try to extort us.

	23-06-2002 02:10									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Prices for tech don't depend on attitude or presence of military. But they might try to extort us.

really? i could have sworn that the AI changes it's prices based on it's attitude... oh well.

	23-06-2002 02:20									#73
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX really? i could have sworn that the AI changes it's prices based on it's attitude... oh well.

hi ,

well , that is what its supposed to do , ....

but now that the AI has seen all the banana's , the AI became so evil he wants more value for its stuff , ...

have a nice day

	23-06-2002 03:08									#74
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I also suggest building a warrior in Thebes and sending it north along the coast.

	23-06-2002 03:16									#75
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker I also suggest building a warrior in Thebes and sending it north along the coast.

hi ,

, sounds natural , ....and building two also , ...

and maybe a worker , ...

have a nice day

	23-06-2002 03:19									#76
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Sir Ralph speaks wisdom throughout this thread. I am heartened that people listen.

May I propose the following?

1. Without much good land to settle, knocking off our closest neighbour is imperative.

2. To win any war we will need more than 1 productive city.

3. We have room for 2 more cities (max) which could each use 2 mined grassland tiles on the Apolyton plains. This would place them closely, thus restricting the future size of one or both. However, that would give us 3 productive cities for an early war.

4. We have not located the French settlements. It is not even necessarily the case that the French cities are the closest to us. While we erect our two additional arsenals, we can continue scouting in sweeping arcs to locate our prey.

Building the worker hurt us a bit, however it may help by the time hostilities can commence. By the time Apolyton can build the 2 daughter cities, Thebes should be productive and be working on it's Barracks. That would give us 4 cities for the Archer rush. Very doable, if we find them and they are close enough.

This plan requires discipline and commitment. If we decide on it we must stick with it from the moment we embark upon it. Any actions which diminish our ability to pump out Archers at the earliest possible date must be avoided at all costs, or the Archer gambit is lost.

	23-06-2002 03:28									#77
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PS. We may not need to build 2 extra cities. 1 may be enough. This point can certainly be debated.

However, it is imperative that we locate the closest enemy cities ASAP. Long stabbing thrusts into the darkness will not help unless we get really lucky. The Warriors must slash across then out and across again.