18-06-2002 21:31									#1
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Well, you all know the situation. You have voted to move ahead, and that is what we are going to do (down sir ralph!).

Reasons:

1: I would rather spend 2 turns moving to a city that will fit in with our expansion grid rather than spending 5 turns heading back home, only to place a city 3 tiles from our capital that only has one grassland.

2: This city will be on a river

3: It will not take long to clear out 2 tiles of jungle, IF my plan below is accepted by the various ministers involved.

About jungle.....we gotta clear it sometime. Until we find a spot to jump our capital to, we might as well try to expand into the unknown as best we can.

Here is my plan, it pertains to UberkruX, Punkbass, Eli, and of course, The President.. I request all ministers involved please post here to let me know what you think:

UberkruX, I request you move Mr. Tough North East to protect our settler, and the city it will soon build.

Punkbass, after our second warrior is finished we will need a third one. Uber, after the third warrior is available I recommend you send him North to protect our new city in order to free up the first guy for more exploring. I suggest letting the third warrior walk 3 turns or so, then having the first guy move out to explore.

Punk, after the 2 warriors we are going to NEED workers. I know you would rather build settlers, but what good are they if there is no good land to settle? After the 2 warriors I suggest: 1 Worker, 1 Settler.

I’m not trying to tell you how to do your job, but you can’t depend on a palace jump, we must be prepared to make the best of our immediate area. Besides, jungle is #1 top quality land.......after burned.

Eli,. I suggest building a road and mine and then proceeding *immediately* to our new city.

With 3 workers and an Industrialist civ, we can start clearing out this jungle for our second city and found our third city NW NW NW W of Apolyton.

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	18-06-2002 21:36									#2
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I say yes. Apolyton will take up all of the good land on the peninsula, making 2 cities useless in the long run. At least if we're next to a river, on the coast, we can have some chance. The jungle has to end soon, and if we're lucky, we may find it within the next couple turns.

	18-06-2002 21:45									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline Eli,. I suggest building a road and mine and then proceeding *immediately* to our new city.

Ok.
Do we want him to road the jungle tiles while he goes to City #2?

	18-06-2002 21:49									#4
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No. That will waste valuable time. Besides, we don't really need a road that bad, especially at the cost in time it will require.

	18-06-2002 21:50									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Ok. Do we want him to road the jungle tiles while he goes to City #2?

LOL, no, there is no time for that. Out top priority is getting at least ONE jungle tile cleared out asap. After we are finished with the NW NW tile at Apolyton, we should proceed DIRECTLY to our second city.

	18-06-2002 21:51									#6
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IIRC, it's already done, but Eli had me move the worker to the NW-NW tile to build a road I believe.

	18-06-2002 21:51									#7
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Btw, to save one walking turn, the route of the worker should be : (because we'll have a road at his current spot)

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	18-06-2002 21:58									#8
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Whatever works

	18-06-2002 21:59									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline Whatever works

Can't you find a better way to get to 500?

	18-06-2002 21:59									#10
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If we desperately need the worker in the new city I can postpone the mine building to another time. The road will be built though.

	18-06-2002 22:00									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Can't you find a better way to get to 500?

no, btw i meant to say NW not NE

	18-06-2002 22:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Eli If we desperately need the worker in the new city I can postpone the mine building to another time. The road will be built though.

That sounds good Eli. I was going to suggest that..but I didn't want to be pushy.

The sooner we start clearing the better.

	18-06-2002 22:01									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Eli If we desperately need the worker in the new city I can postpone the mine building to another time. The road will be built though.

Build the road, then go straight to the city. Not building the road would waste a bit of time, and we wouldn't get the commerce bonus (aren't we using the whale tile though anyways? ). Then go straight north.

	18-06-2002 22:06									#14
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imnsho You should have just built a mine north of the city...it already has a road. But oh well.it doesn't matter now, i am just glad Eli is willing to clear jungle for us up north

START HANDING OUT THE MACHETES!!!!!(except to uber)

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quote: Originally posted by Timeline imnsho You should have just built a mine north of the city...it already has a road. But oh well.it doesn't matter now, i am just glad Eli is willing to clear jungle for us up north START HANDING OUT THE MACHETES!!!!!(except to uber)

I think Uber already has a few dozen in his bedroom.

	18-06-2002 22:09									#16
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quote: Timeline : imnsho You should have just built a mine north of the city...it already has a road

The NW NW square, unlike the N one, is a Shield-Grassland tile. This is why it had a priority.

	18-06-2002 22:10									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Eli quote: Timeline : imnsho You should have just built a mine north of the city...it already has a road The NW NW square, unlike the N one, is s Shield-Grassland tile. This is why he had a priority.

I know, but I still thought it was waste of time

	19-06-2002 00:56									#18
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bump

	19-06-2002 01:23									#19
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the settler has only 2 stops left to move, and it would take 4 turns for the warrior to catch up.

i'm going to decline your proposal as it is, but propose that the next availible warrior (#2) be sent to the new city, and the 3rd used to defend apolyton while we build settlers.

i want that first warrior to head west at all costs. the jungle has to end sooner or later, and the sooner the better.

so to recap, the existing warrior heads west looking for fertile soil. the next warrior produced heads north to the new city, and the 3rd one defends apolyton. unless you're giving me more units to play with, that is all.

	19-06-2002 01:34									#20
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX the settler has only 2 stops left to move, and it would take 4 turns for the warrior to catch up. i'm going to decline your proposal as it is, but propose that the next availible warrior (#2) be sent to the new city, and the 3rd used to defend apolyton while we build settlers.

That would not be wise, as our city grows next turn and will need a defender to squash the Banana supporters.

Also, it would be foolish to leave our city unprotected, and is just asking for Barbarian Pilliging.

The option I have proposed above is the only truly viable one.

	19-06-2002 01:45									#21
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oh i was under the impression that the next thing to be built was a worker. oopsie. that musta been my idea

of course the next warrior will stay at home, but i am not goign to waver in my course of exploration.

	19-06-2002 02:11									#22
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Very well, that is your decision to make. However, I am going on the record as STRONGLY OPPOSED to your not sending a warrior to protect our settler, and I am in a state of protest. You are held accountable for protecting all our interests and shall be held accountable for any ill-effects resulting from your latest desicion of ignoring our security needs.

May the Banana favor the bold....

	19-06-2002 02:16									#23
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Btw, what's Cted?

	19-06-2002 02:23									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Btw, what's Cted?

Council of Territorial Expansion and Development

	19-06-2002 03:22									#25
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bump,

please vote on your approval or disapproval with this plan.

	19-06-2002 03:25									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline May the Banana favor the bold....

history is forged by the bold, not the meek.

	19-06-2002 03:27									#27
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX history is forged by the bold, not the meek.

Thanks, we will try to remember that as we are being mauled by barbarians.

	19-06-2002 03:31									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline Thanks, we will try to remember that as we are being mauled by barbarians.

i promise there will be no barbarians.

	19-06-2002 03:37									#29
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX i promise there will be no barbarians.

Hope your right, but it will leave the city open for pillaging. Oh well it's on your head now anyway, I did all I could do.

	19-06-2002 04:17									#30
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THANK YOU! This is what I've been pushing for all along.