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Papa Chubby
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Jun 2002 time: 05:20
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I disagree to the fact that we need more councils, all of us have been playing Civ 3 for some time, and probably ar old Civ 2 veterans as well. The point being we donīt need to debate every little issue, it would merely slow down the game.
Though it would add to the feel and flavour of just how democratic this game is.
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UnOrthOdOx
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Hello....
Jun 2002 time: 22:20
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quote: The UFC are known for their anti power for the people policy. Skywalker forgets the CTED was voting for by the people, but will blatantly ignore their wishes by dissolving this so far efficient council in favor of one he can't even spell the name of or abbreviate properly. Good work Skywalker, shows alot of promise! |
Now we are down to attacking people's spelling? And since when is the UFC known for anit power for people? Last I checked it was simply pro military expansion, specifically against France. I have seen nothing from them to be anti power to the people.
Can we all just be a bit more constructive here? Skywalker made a mistake or two with spelling, and wheter the CTED was voted or not. Hell, I am having a hard enough time trying to figure what all is "official" or not. Voted or not. Here the idea Skywalker propsed was quite similar to the CTED, clearly thinking along the same lines, but in a different direction, yet you vehemently oppose...
Calm down a bit. Blatant attacks are not going to improve anything and are going to lead to some bitter rivalries that I believe we would all rather avoid.
So far, Uber, IMO has been the best example of what a leader should be. He proposed a plan, lobied for it, was voted against, and simply made a new plan according to the will of the people.
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Sunshine State, USA
Nov 2000 time: 00:20
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Now we are down to attacking people's spelling? |
I am just saying, I put alot of work into the CTED making it efficient and useful, and now he wants to tear it all down for some hastily planned council with the SMC as a head. It is simply an attempt to secure power for people with like minds of his.
The CTED is doing an excellent job, and him calling it a DIA bastion shows its all about power and control for him.
quote: And since when is the UFC known for anit power for people? Last I checked it was simply pro military expansion, specifically against France. I have seen nothing from them to be anti power to the people. |
Trip is the president of the UFC correct? He has voted for and supported every possible act that would limit power to the people.
quote: Can we all just be a bit more constructive here? Here the idea Skywalker propsed was quite similar to the CTED, clearly thinking along the same lines, but in a different direction, yet you vehemently oppose... |
I have been contructive, I constructed the CTED, and it works fine, no need to replace it. Take what works and improve it and refine it, don't knock it down for its place to be occupied by something els.
The MIC or MEC or whatever it is is just a pre election attempt to gain last minute support. It is vapor candy. For those who remember, I waited until I was in office to propose the CTED, but some wish to use things for their own advantage.
quote: Calm down a bit. Blatant attacks are not going to improve anything and are going to lead to some bitter rivalries that I believe we would all rather avoid. |
You misunderstood my post if you thought I was not calm. I am simply exposing this pathetic last ditch effort for what it is.
quote: So far, Uber, IMO has been the best example of what a leader should be. He proposed a plan, lobied for it, was voted against, and simply made a new plan according to the will of the people. |
Yea, Uber is okay, I try to like him but whenever I get close he just throws mud in my face. Oh well, I will keep trying.
Gotta go, be back later.
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UnOrthOdOx
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Hello....
Jun 2002 time: 22:20
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quote: Trip is the president of the UFC correct? He has voted for and supported every possible act that would limit power to the people |
That does not mean that the UFC as a whole voted that way. There are issues for a party, then there are issues that individuals must decide. There are also several parties within the Coalition. Each has different views, but are united in the war on France.
quote: The CTED is doing an excellent job, and him calling it a DIA bastion shows its all about power and control for him. |
Yes, I am referring to all sides on this. We need to stop degrading, and start building up. Perhaps he should have instead listed changes he would make to the existing CTED. I, for one, do not understand it, or its purpose. I have not seen reports on its meetings, what is decided, how that decision came about. How is the general citizen to know it is usefull?
quote: I have been contructive, I constructed the CTED, and it works fine, no need to replace it. Take what works and improve it and refine it, don't knock it down for its place to be occupied by something els. |
You are really doing a great job, and alot of work. But, it could have been presented here in a much nicer fashion. State how the CTED works, submit your view that instead of a new commitee, adding the SMC to this would serve the same purpose.
quote: I am simply exposing this pathetic last ditch effort for what it is. |
One could easily argue that this has been an attempt on your part to bulster support for an official that suits your view better, simply on how things have been worded.
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