24-06-2002 07:27									#1
	Finance Ministry: 2950 BC Put an end to popups!

Remember to vote for one science option and one lux option! Poll ends in 3 days (Wednesday night). A table of what each setting does is attached, take a look at it too before voting.
We are now paying 5 gold per turn to the french, so our situation is quite different:
Science options:
1. No science, acquire it all some other way and get 4 gold per turn .
2. Minimal science (10-20, only 20 makes sense in our current situation). Get it every 40 turns but still get rich.
3. Max science without losing money (30-40). Always a nice central stance, but the only tech that we would get in less than 40 turns is pottery .
4. Lose a little bit of money (50-70). All techs go a bit faster and we don't lose too much...but remember we only have 10 gold.
5. Option 4, but when we run out of money switch to option 3.
6. High science (80-100). All techs go pretty fast, but we lose money very quickly.

Luxury options:
1. No lux
2. 10%-1 person in apolyton is happy
3. 20%-1 person in each city is happy
4. 30+%-all are happy.

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Last edited by civman2000 on 24-06-2002 at 07:45

	24-06-2002 07:32									#2
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I personally like option 2 (for now). I would like more science but unless we're going for pottery soon it's pointless.

	24-06-2002 09:20									#3
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I like option 1. Minimal philosophy spending. The time to turn it to 0 and simply buy will be after we have monarchy. If we get lucky, we'll be able to sell 1 or 2 techs for 4 or 8.

As far as luxuries go, I would favour giving you and Trip the authority to increase it to 10 or 20 or 30% to keep the settlers and archers coming fast furious when needed.

	24-06-2002 09:35									#4
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How will getting our money back from France after 20 turns affect these charts?

	24-06-2002 10:45									#5
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	24-06-2002 16:46									#6
	Increase Your PM Length

delsolsi: add 5 gold per turn to every value. However, that is far off and our overall level of commerce will have changed so it's hard to predict exactly.

	24-06-2002 16:50									#7
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While I really support strong science, I think that we can't afford loss of money, so I voted for science option 2.

	25-06-2002 03:41									#8
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sorry about not having data on iron working, which it's looking like we'll research...we don't get cremonial burial until next turn so I couldnt see...

	25-06-2002 03:46									#9
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

It's fine.

	25-06-2002 07:23									#10
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I think we should put science to zero and buy everything we need from someone, but if we don't find another civ soon, we should crank science as high as we can.

Personally, I think we don't luxuries this early in the game, with such low city populations. Just wastes commerce...

Oh, one more thing...

quote: Originally posted by civman2000 we don't get cremonial burial until next turn so I couldnt see...

I think you mean Bronze Working? Just a little confusing for me when I saw it at first.

	25-06-2002 10:31									#11
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Yes, Jonny. Bronze Workung is next.

In fact, look at the save.

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	25-06-2002 16:42									#12
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yeah sorry i mean BW, I was real tired when i typed that.

	25-06-2002 19:35									#13
	Re: Finance Ministry: 2950 BC Enter the AD-FREE zone

quote: Originally posted by civman2000 2. Minimal science (10-20, only 20 makes sense in our current situation). Get it every 40 turns but still get rich.

But from the table, 10% science gets +3 gold and 40 turns, whereas 20% gets +2 gold and 40 turns.

Surely only 10% science makes sense of these 2

And feel free to shout at me if i'm missing something

	25-06-2002 19:37									#14
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quote: And feel free to shout at me if i'm missing something

Ok,

40 SCIENCE IS ONLY FOR SOME TECHS, YOU IDIOT!!!!



joking

	25-06-2002 19:38									#15
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Mtgillespie, you're not the only one who noticed that.
And I'm confused by it myself.

	26-06-2002 05:15									#16
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sorry, that was typo, i meant to say 10

	26-06-2002 07:19									#17
	Why any Luxuries? Get a bigger avatar today!

I voted for 0% luxury, but at this level, how long, without temples or luxuries, will our cities remain out of civil unrest if we follow plan Pink and leave only one unit (one happy face) per city?

	26-06-2002 17:16									#18
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I think until size 3...