24-06-2002 20:10									#1
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This poll wants to identify the number of active citizens. Please participate.

The poll is up for 7 days.

	24-06-2002 20:16									#2
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Is it me, or does voting in number 4 make you a number 3?

	24-06-2002 20:20									#3
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Actually, voting number 3 or 4 makes you a 2.

	24-06-2002 20:21									#4
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Good logic

	24-06-2002 20:22									#5
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Option 1, more voting than posting.

Since I'm in vacation mode, I can have trouble expressing thoughts longer than a few sentences coherently.

And wouldn't voting for 3 or 4 contradict yourself?

Edit: Damn, beaten to it

	24-06-2002 20:23									#6
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Whoops again.

It's 3:30am here - I think I'm allowed a little mistake or two.

	24-06-2002 20:24									#7
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Not here-- 11:30 AM

And I woke up a 7 AM. No excuse for being this un-awake right now, in my case.

	24-06-2002 20:36									#8
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This poll only needs the option YES. If you were not participating you would not be voting therefore the number of people in the game - the number of people who vote here = approx. the number participating in the game.

	24-06-2002 20:38									#9
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...only we can't post a poll with only one option.



Maybe two options, both "Yes"!

And what about the people who post, but never vote?

	24-06-2002 20:54									#10
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I will always vote, but don't assume that if you don't hear from me, I am not here. I post as much as possible, which is not much.

	24-06-2002 21:07									#11
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quote: Originally posted by disorganizer This poll wants to identify the number of active citizens. Please participate. The poll is up for 7 days.

hi ,

we shall get a wrong view of the stats , because this pol is for seven days , that one for 4 , that one for 3 , and an other one for 5 , ......

we should put , ones and for all a time limit on them , ....

have a nice day

	24-06-2002 21:25									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov ...only we can't post a poll with only one option. Maybe two options, both "Yes"! And what about the people who post, but never vote?

I did a poll like that. It was "Do you vote in polls?". "Yes" beat "Yes".

	26-06-2002 12:43									#13
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this poll is up for 7 days to show how much participation we can expect during one week. a longer time would not make sense, as people maybe leave again during this time, but still voted yes. then we would have errorous statistics.

maybe it would be a good idea to post this poll every month to baseline active citizen-count?

	26-06-2002 19:40									#14
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Well let's see. We have ~170 or so members now, and 38 have responded? Geeze, that rate of participation is awful.

	26-06-2002 20:58									#15
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every x months we should have 'resignups' to get rid of people who dont participate. why have a long list of people when only a third of them take part?

	26-06-2002 21:01									#16
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I agree with you jdd.

	26-06-2002 23:24									#17
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agree.

	26-06-2002 23:47									#18
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	26-06-2002 23:48									#19
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Seems right to me ... in the democratic republic of the US, 30-40% voter participation is unfortunatlly typical.

	26-06-2002 23:50									#20
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quote: Originally posted by jdd2007 every x months we should have 'resignups' to get rid of people who dont participate. why have a long list of people when only a third of them take part?

hi ,

, agreed , but it are the summer months now , a lot of people are away for a while , ....

we shall get more people in the cold wet months , ....

maybe we have to make more publicity ,

its strange that with so many on Apolyton , only a few are intrested , ....or are they all just reading , ...

have a nice day

	27-06-2002 00:21									#21
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , , agreed , but it are the summer months now , a lot of people are away for a while , .... we shall get more people in the cold wet months , .... maybe we have to make more publicity , its strange that with so many on Apolyton , only a few are intrested , ....or are they all just reading , ... have a nice day

i dont think people will be much more active in the fall. at least some apolytonians including myself will be much less active, because of school, and the time it takes up.

is there some point to writing 'have a nice day' in every post. at least put it in you sig.

	27-06-2002 00:29									#22
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quote: Originally posted by jdd2007 i dont think people will be much more active in the fall. at least some apolytonians including myself will be much less active, because of school, and the time it takes up. is there some point to writing 'have a nice day' in every post. at least put it in you sig.

hi ,

, agreed , but people dont go to ride a bike then , or sit outside , no BBQ's and such , ....

have a nice day , well , if in the sig people dont notice it , its only purpose is to let people have a small smile ,
and its sincere , ....

so , to ALL , have a nice day and night

	27-06-2002 04:33									#23
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , , agreed , but people dont go to ride a baike then , or sit outside , no BBQ's and such , .... have a nice day , well , if in the sig people dont notice it , its only purpose is to let people have a small smile , and its sincere , .... so , to ALL , have a nice day and night

ok

	27-06-2002 05:09									#24
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I vote and post. The problem I have noticed is that polls can get old real quick when you revote an issue a number of times; city naming comes to mind.

Also, it would be nice to sticky note the polls to the top of the page, or even have a sub folder for them. Since it can be hard to find them. The original current polls was a good start, but it needs editing to include all currently active polls on the first post. Discussing what to include in a poll before launching it would also help, since this tends to lead to later polls if not well thought out first. Again, this would need either sticky noted to top or have a post going that is sticky noted with the appropriate info in the first post.

	27-06-2002 08:38									#25
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I always vote, but I don't post that much.

	27-06-2002 12:58									#26
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another proposal for the census:
i would volunteer as census officer to post a active-citizen poll like this one on the 1st of every month. we will then have a monthly overview of participation, independant of our memberlist.

maybe even a weekly poll on mondays up for 5 days would be good?
this would give us a detailed picture of participation without having the "clutter" of electional participation (yes, some citizens come here only to vote in the elections).
we could then do a detailed graphical stat of it.
how could i request a poll being sticky? pm the mod? or is there a better way to do this?

	27-06-2002 20:04									#27
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I prefer the monthly poll over the weekly one. I fear some people (among the less active) won't notice the poll is new, and won't vote in it again. Plus, a weekly poll like this will participate to the poll saturation.

	28-06-2002 01:56									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I prefer the monthly poll over the weekly one. I fear some people (among the less active) won't notice the poll is new, and won't vote in it again. Plus, a weekly poll like this will participate to the poll saturation.

hi ,

if they want they can check if they have voted yes or no , when you come back next day or week , ...

you cant vote twice , and you are shown the results , ....

weekly is the best , .....

other wise we are still going to be "working & building" in five years , ...

have a nice day

	28-06-2002 02:21									#29
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It would be nice to get a notice of a new poll. I have tried looking at all the new posts, but a poll can get booted down the list quite a ways sometimes, and it could easily get missed.

	28-06-2002 11:44									#30
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since the poll will be there in a schedule with week-number in the topic, it will be easy to determine the new one ;-) its there on mondays. the other one will be closed over the weekend. so if you notice a open census-poll during the week, its the one you did not vote on.
i still try to find out wheter we can get the poll sticky. do i have to pm a mod?