26-06-2002 02:32									#1
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we had that "one turn wonder" today after 75 minutes of trip being late :cough: coup :cough:

we found america.

here are the raw images of our turns.

overview:

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	26-06-2002 02:32									#2
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Apolytonia:

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	26-06-2002 02:33									#3
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and France, with a lovey (probably iron rich), defensive mountain chain.

	26-06-2002 02:33									#4
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probably should have attached, eh?

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	26-06-2002 02:34									#5
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note, i was an idiot and didnt re-set the tax sliders. stupid me.

i'll be drawing up more developed / colored maps soon.

	26-06-2002 02:37									#6
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Everyone, note the faint teal border in the second pic... we have reason to believe that the Americans are there.

The dye is within their borders.

So we have another rival, one possibly as bad-off as we are. Should we revise Code Pink to account for the Yankees?

Edit: Thank Uber for being the first to notice it.

	26-06-2002 02:39									#7
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Sorry, i don't see it.

	26-06-2002 02:44									#8
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Alright then, here's the pic:

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	26-06-2002 02:44									#9
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Scout them out with the warrior to see if they are a good sub for the french.

	26-06-2002 02:46									#10
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I'm posting overview pictures in my Report II thread, so pictures like these won't really be necessary anymore. Only for true military junk, since you can find the exact same thing at the top.

	26-06-2002 02:59									#11
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here is a more descriptive overview.

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	26-06-2002 03:01									#12
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Now that's the kind of thing that's more useful.

	26-06-2002 03:02									#13
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and heres a 2 turn summary of my planned moves for the scouting warriors.

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	26-06-2002 03:08									#14
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Ok, well I suggest we conquer France first. The Americans appear to be in the same jungle position we are, so it won't help us to capture their land, just yet.

	26-06-2002 03:08									#15
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I officially suggest calling warrior 1

"Damian" scourger of the french

for in years to come no fenchie will dare even to wisper his name.

	26-06-2002 03:18									#16
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Looks like more work for the SMC after the French are vassalized.

	26-06-2002 03:51									#17
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We must scout more before we set our minds to who's first. First should be they who are a balance of the closest and with the best land.

PS. Excellent maps Uber. I appreciate your efforts.

	26-06-2002 19:19									#18
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I agree with nye on both points. Keep up the good work Uber. Your efforts aid your country.

	26-06-2002 19:28									#19
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Wow, nice maps Uber! gj

	26-06-2002 20:47									#20
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How do you do the shading thing? I assume your not using paint, like me

	26-06-2002 21:15									#21
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Mr. SMC, SIR!

May the private respectfully suggest building 2 Warriors rather than Barracks, SIR!

	26-06-2002 21:23									#22
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker How do you do the shading thing? I assume your not using paint, like me

i'm using adobe photoshop and the "Color" Layer option.

it doesnt really halp if you dont have photoshop i suppose

	26-06-2002 21:26									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus Mr. SMC, SIR! May the private respectfully suggest building 2 Warriors rather than Barracks, SIR!

in Apolyton? hrm.

IMHO, we do not need mroe "scouting" warriors, so the only poaint for more warriors would be garrisioning and whatnot.

all i know is that i need barracks before we start building units, and that building the barracks now is the BEST fit.

sure, it overlaps time were we could be building a settler, but if we SWITCHED them, we'd have a settler ready a turn early, making a turn of no production.

in our suitation, every turn matters.

if you have another use for 2 more warriors, i'd love to hear it

	26-06-2002 21:35									#24
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we do need to scout more to assess targets, but barracks are essential.

	26-06-2002 22:22									#25
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Set one to build a barracks and the other to build a settler. Then switch? either way, we need to have both in order to move forward. The sooner Blue and red are on line, the better off both of them will be.

	26-06-2002 22:23									#26
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Oh ya, forgot to say it, but cool pics. Keep up the good work.

	27-06-2002 00:28									#27
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Great modified pics. We need to concentrate our forces, and thought, towards france, once the French are subjugated, then we can crush the Americans, it's all falling into place isn't it SMC? All we need to do now is actually do it !!!!

	27-06-2002 02:39									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Will 5001 Great modified pics. We need to concentrate our forces, and thought, towards france, once the French are subjugated, then we can crush the Americans, it's all falling into place isn't it SMC? All we need to do now is actually do it !!!!

yes. it IS all falling into place

and everyone, you're welcome for the maps.

and now feels like a good time for:

this post brought to you by supreme military commander UberKruX. Glory Comes From Spilt Blood.

	27-06-2002 02:50									#29
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It seems to me that the second Spearman in the attack force is superflous. Any towns beyond Paris will most likely be autorazed, and thus the only purpose for sending the second one would be Archer protection. For the moment, I would bet that the mountain range extends to the WNW, and thus I'm not overly concerned.

I propose building 1 Warrior after the Barracks is built... leave it there until the Settler is built, then send it to explore, north and then west, using the pattern Uber points out. It can also return to act as a rover in the attack, if appropriate.

I'm not sure of the math, but this should accelerate D-day by 4 turns.

And hopefully helps lift us out of blindness.

Also, is there any reason not to intrude on France's territory on the 2nd turn of the far western Warrior's exploration?

	27-06-2002 05:18									#30
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To be successful in this gambit, we need more exploration to learn the extent of the other 2 civs. Which could change our strategy, or not. We need to see where there are at. Histograph and Power charts will help some on that.