27-06-2002 20:52									#1
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Does it make sense that a player can communicate with any civilization on the map at any momment if they only have contact? That we can trade contact with other players? I think it would make much more sense if you could only communicate with a civ if you had units in contact or within that civs territory until you established an embassy. This change would keep techs and other info from flying around the continents and make the game more realistic. What do you think?

	28-06-2002 04:19									#2
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Given the fact that in the early stages of the game turns are 10 – 50 years long, the communication without direct contact is not so unrealistic. The diplomatic mission goes out, travels, makes contact and returns. Trading contact is nothing more than making introductions. But this assumes that Firaxis assumes that we would assume that diplomatic missions should be assumed to be like trade – assumed.
Now trade is something that is unrealistic. What nation would make a 200-400 year trade deal without allowing for renegotiation?

	28-06-2002 08:59									#3
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China, at gunpoint?

	28-06-2002 12:18									#4
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quote: Originally posted by miccofl Given the fact that in the early stages of the game turns are 10 – 50 years long, the communication without direct contact is not so unrealistic. The diplomatic mission goes out, travels, makes contact and returns. Trading contact is nothing more than making introductions. But this assumes that Firaxis assumes that we would assume that diplomatic missions should be assumed to be like trade – assumed. Now trade is something that is unrealistic. What nation would make a 200-400 year trade deal without allowing for renegotiation?

Well IMO, it would be quite annoying if the AI came up every turn to renegotiate...

	28-06-2002 13:00									#5
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quote: Originally posted by miccofl Now trade is something that is unrealistic. What nation would make a 200-400 year trade deal without allowing for renegotiation?

That was a game balance issue, as noted. It would be annoying if you had to renegotiate every deal every few turns.

I think most people here accept the fact that Civ III is not really trying to emulate reality, but create a version of it.

	29-06-2002 02:08									#6
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Agreed, but 20 turns is excessive.

	29-06-2002 23:41									#7
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quote: Originally posted by miccofl Agreed, but 20 turns is excessive.

There should be the option in the editor to change this ,
either more or less turns .

	30-06-2002 02:41									#8
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hi ,

one thing that is a bit frustrating is the "hidden nationality" , you are passing with your unit true territoy , so far so good , now you dont want to get contact with that civ , but certainly you get a nice "hi" from that civ , .......

have a nice day