29-06-2002 07:54									#1
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That in the Play the World editor, there is a dadgum minimap. Do you know how hard it is to make a map without a minimap? Yeah, I'm sure you do.

I also hope that you can pick which civ starts where on a certain map...ala Civ2.

Basically, I hope that they go back to Civ2 Mapeditor, and add in everything into the Civ3 editor that was in the Civ2 one that they left out in the first place.

I also hope that they allow all the Cheat options in some form or fashion that you had in Civ2. Those were great for making scenarios...maybe call them Scenario Tools instead of Cheat.

	29-06-2002 08:54									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus That in the Play the World editor, there is a dadgum minimap. Do you know how hard it is to make a map without a minimap? Yeah, I'm sure you do. I also hope that you can pick which civ starts where on a certain map...ala Civ2. Basically, I hope that they go back to Civ2 Mapeditor, and add in everything into the Civ3 editor that was in the Civ2 one that they left out in the first place. I also hope that they allow all the Cheat options in some form or fashion that you had in Civ2. Those were great for making scenarios...maybe call them Scenario Tools instead of Cheat.

Um, there will be a minimap for the editor in the upcoming free patch....

	29-06-2002 10:23									#3
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The lack of a Civ 2 style Cheat Mode (and scenario building) remains a major problem with Civ 3 - and a ripoff as the Civ 3 box never said those vital elements were missing.

The Cheat Mode in Civ 2 was great. I used it for such as controlling my own accelerated startups, or switching sides in a scenario.

	29-06-2002 11:31									#4
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quote: maybe call them Scenario Tools instead of Cheat.

I agree completely. Everytime I wanted to make a scenario, I felt so guilty . You can call me a liar, an egotist, a communist, but Im not a cheater *sob*....

Kman

	29-06-2002 17:59									#5
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The "June" editor patch (no longer June though) will contain the editor that can do all of those things. The 'cheat mode' is very unlikely to be included in that patch though, and highly doubtful for PtW.

	29-06-2002 21:41									#6
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hi ,

the game is fun , and small kids can play it without a cheat , so why should it be there , ......

start easy and go up , ...

placement of units and such is something else , and it shall be with us very soon , ....

more units , more buildings , more wonders , more tech's , more era's , ....thats what we need .

they have to fix some bugs , ....like the worker identity

have a nice day

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	02-07-2002 16:02									#7
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quote: The lack of a Civ 2 style Cheat Mode (and scenario building) remains a major problem with Civ 3 - and a ripoff as the Civ 3 box never said those vital elements were missing.

It never said they were present either. No one said they were. YOU may consider them vital elements to a Civ game; I don't. And I'm sure there are others who think the same as me.

	02-07-2002 23:40									#8
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hi ,

one does not need to cheat in the game , ....

and with the new editor it shall be easy to make a scenario , ....

the cheat mode in civ 2 was used a lot to build a scen , now that is no more needed , .....

as for the date , they prefer with good reason to hold it back , so that when it comes out , its nearly failproof , ....

have a nice day