30-06-2002 13:57									#1
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Just a couple of questions about the cradle mod, since I dont know anything about it, and am just now returning back to CTP2

What is the maximum amount of civs, and what is the suggested amount to start with?

All the "hidden nationality" units still there?

Any maps come with, aka the world map?

any new units.

Those are the main 4.

	30-06-2002 22:32									#2
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quote: What is the maximum amount of civs, and what is the suggested amount to start with?

The maximum is theoretically 32, I think saved games only work properly with 28. Unless you have a very powerful computer, I'd suggest starting with 7 or 8. Not more than 10 anyway.

quote: All the "hidden nationality" units still there?

Isn't that Civ3?

quote: Any maps come with, aka the world map?

Nope, but you can get them separately, and play with Cradle rules.

quote: any new units.

Loads. You'll have to check out the readme for details, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cradle nearly doubled the number of units in the game.

	01-07-2002 00:56									#3
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I would have no problems except I cant get it to work period. I installed the cradle and first off, when I select it, I can only play with around 30 civs. then when I start it says "unable to find the file m.lanicere medieo.TGA"

Is there something i am doing wrong?

	01-07-2002 01:20									#4
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It sounds like you need Leonardo's graphics add-on.

	01-07-2002 01:29									#5
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I alreaedy intalled that

	01-07-2002 02:17									#6
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Something seems to have gone wrong in the process. My advice would be to try installing it again, see if that makes a difference...

	01-07-2002 06:28									#7
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Thank you, that fixed the tga thing, now how do I get a senario that lets me choose all the civs, a earth map that will work (the default senario crashes when I run it with cradle) and I cant pick the more popular civs, america, france, rome, ect. It gives me 32 civs to choose from right now, and they are kinda off the wall.

	01-07-2002 20:50									#8
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quote: Originally posted by bnmac3 Thank you, that fixed the tga thing, now how do I get a senario that lets me choose all the civs...

From the FAQ Thread...
Q7 How to play with more than 8 opponents?
A7 Just open your userprofile.txt in your ..\ctp2_program\ctp\ directory.
At the top of that file you find the entry: NumPlayers=9. Just change the number there to a one of your choice, and you will start a game with that number of players.
As I know the max number is 29. I never was able to reload a game with more players.

quote: Originally posted by bnmac3 a earth map that will work (the default senario crashes when I run it with cradle)

I have never tried using a pre-made map in any of my games, so I'm not sure what needs to be done.

quote: Originally posted by bnmac3 and I cant pick the more popular civs, america, france, rome, ect. It gives me 32 civs to choose from right now, and they are kinda off the wall.

Since Cradle is heavily based on ancient history, the civ list uses ancient civs. However, there is a set of two files that will restore (most of) the civs from the default game to your Cradle setup. You will need to switch out those files with the existing Cradle files.

1. In the ctp2_data/default/gamedata/CRA_playing options/orig civs folder, there is a file called CRA_civilization.txt - switch that file with the existing one in the ctp2_data/default/gamedata folder

2. In the ctp2_data/english/gamedata/CRA_original civs folder, there is a file called CRA_civ_str.txt - switch that file with the existing CRA_civ_str.txt in the ctp2_data/english/gamedata folder.