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jdd2007 is offline jdd2007
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first of all, what is the United front coalition? we are a coalition of three parties: the hawk party, the imperialists and the nationalists.

i am in the hawk party. when our party was founded, people immediately declared themselves an enemy of us, without knowing what we stood for. all they saw was WAR!

here is what the UFC isnt:

-disorganized. we have set stances on a few key issues
-very large. we are not much bigger, if at all than the dia
-about to "explode between different factions" no. all three parties have worked together. we have had no conflicts whatsoever...
-old. the hawksand nationalists are new, but have done very well with growing larger and merging.
-all genocidal maniacs, although we do associate with a few
-vague about their stance on issues. the dia stands for
"Industrial expansion" "industrializing our cities" "investing in culture and science" these are broad views that members of the UFC takes for granted. we have clear views on agression, expansion and deplomacy.
-in favor of doing whatever -we- want to do. we -can- make compromises

what ufc is:

-clear on issues. we make war when we need to make war and we need to do so soon
-cohesive. we work together.
-growing. the hawk party is only a weak old, but it has steadily increased in size.
-in favor of democracy, parties, cohesion and science, although we dont say things like "defenders of Democracy," and "prove faithful to the people" and "obediently follow the people’’s will " because, again, we take it for granted that any major party should listen completely to the people. we definitely think citizens control the government

it seems people in this nation dont understand the United Front Coalition, or the Popular Front. all we are is three parties that are working together and understand that the only way we can survive is with a strong military

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Mr. Speaker, I would very much like to join this organization. I am, as I have made clearly evident to everyone, an imperialist, and a nationalist, I want to see Apolytonia's glorious banner rise and forever wave, and I wish to see the civilizing influence of the great banana instituted all over the world, and I do want to see my great nation become the strongest, and indeed, become an empire, despite the heavy burden thrust upon us so mercilessly by this ancient, yet evil and enchroaching jungle. However, I am, as you say, a staunch supporter of democracy. I am not a hawk, but I do want war when it is for the bettermeant of mankind. Sir, I should very much like to enter into this party, for the better of Apolytonians everywhere. God save the Moderator.

Kingof the Apes is offline Kingof the Apes
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Welcome, History Guy!

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i would be honored to have you in our party. at the moment we are stifled on all sides of our country, so to expand we need to wage war with france. thanks for joining. should i add you to the hawk party list?

rally round the banana!

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Welcome, be sure to get out there and vote (be sure to vote no on ethics).

Jethro83 is offline Jethro83
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Mar 2002
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Thank you jdd2007 for saying what has long needed to be said. Let's hope that people put their narrow-minded generalisations of us to rest.

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Thank you, sirs, for your kind welcome. It is indeed a great honor to be a part of this great influence to Apolytonian society. I am convinced that the most open minds of our country are imperialists and nationalists like I, who would die for this land of bananas. Mr. Speaker, I would be indeed very pleased to join your party, but I will say this: I am not a hawk by instinct, but by necessity. It is, I believe, necessary for our survival as a civilization to expand, to attack either France or America, and rise and conquer. If we do not, we are to be destroyed utterly, there is little doubt of that in my mind. But, I am not a man who will simply call to attack for no good reason at all. If, many years down the road, we have become a rich and powerful empire, and we find that off north somewhere there is a small rich empire, I would not simply call for war, there has to be a good and satisfactory reason for it, as I believe that there is in this case. The only disagreement, sir, is that I believe that it is America and not France that should be our first target. America is an expansionist nation, and indeed, I believe that one day it may well be as powerful, if not more so, than our own nation if we do not nip it in the bud, so to speak. But once again, I thank you all for the welcome. God save the banana, and Apolytonia for which it stands!

LordImpact is offline LordImpact
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As something of a war hawk and imperialist myself, I would also like to request membership into the UFC. While I do not post much, I do utilize the power of the vote as much as I can. I believe this coalition best embodies the destiny of Apolytonia. We must spread our culture throughout this world and show those misguided souls of our enemies the proper way to live. Apolytonia embodies the spirit of democracy and the will of the people. To not spread our ways on this planet would be a violation of human rights. As of this moment the best way to accomplish this would be through war. However, I tend to agree with History Guy. Prehaps America poses a more significant threat to our great empire. The Americans are certainly more agressive than the French and they are also an expansionest power. I am not quite up to spec on the details of the game though. It is entirely possible that France poses more of a threat at this moment. No matter what, both nations must be destroyed. I have put my trust into your leadership and voted in favor of Case Pink. I am sure no matter what action is taken, the UFC will lead our growing empire into victory and glory.

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Welcome, LordImpact!

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Welcome, sir, I believe you to be correct in all of your sayings.

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jdjdjd is offline jdjdjd
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Is this like compassionate conservatism?

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I'd like to join the others in welcoming new membership to the Coalition, but I just wanted to make an important point.

This Coalition is an alliance between two parties. And while we've all be working together to pool our votes on interests and issues that we all agree upon, there still are distinct parties present.

This Coalition may never break up, but there is always that possibility in the far future. I think that it is best that new members pick a party to affiliate with. This is not required at all, but it may be in your best interest to pick the party which best represents you.

Please take a look at our parties and choose one if you wish:

The Imperialists

Hawk/Nationalist Party

If you have questions, the leaders of both parties would be happy to answer any questions.

--Togas

Luk is offline Luk
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I would like to join UFC, because I am nationalist and I think that our nation should build its power on the strong army, strong economy and expansionist policy!

Count me in, I always voted for UFC candidates

Kingof the Apes is offline Kingof the Apes
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Welcome, Luk!


I joined the Imperialists initially I think...

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Well, then, might I be able to join both parties? A little unusual, I think, but I am not as much a hawk as I am an imperialist.

Kingof the Apes is offline Kingof the Apes
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I dunno...

I always thought of the UFC as a party itself..

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KotA, thats how well we work together. we have practically merged. at the moment, the parties are merely symbolic. i added HG's, Luk's and Togas' names to the Hawk party.

the hawk party is just a name.

Kingof the Apes is offline Kingof the Apes
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We should make a flag.

Or is there already one?

Trip is offline Trip
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As the President of Apolytonia and founder of the Imperialists, I welcome all of our new members. *bows*

If you guys think it's alright, I'll manufacture a flag for the UFC. I have experience already, having made the probable flag of Apolytonia itself. Just give me a few days and some time to go over schemes to work out in my head.

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Mr. President, I am honored, sir, to be welcomed to your own party. I hope that I might be of any assistance that I can, sir. (bows)

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As the President of Apolytonia and founder of the Imperialists, I welcome all of our new members. *bows*

If you guys think it's alright, I'll manufacture a flag for the UFC. I have experience already, having made the probable flag of Apolytonia itself. Just give me a few days and some time to go over schemes to work out in my head.


the hawk party does have an unofficial flag, created by uber. we could integrate it maybe into the UFC flag. here it is.

Attachment: hawk-elec.gif
This has been downloaded 54 time(s).

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Maybe each party that's a member of the Coalition should create a flag, and then the Coalition flag would be a combination of them.

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well the imperialists need to make a flag first

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