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Should Germany change its national anthem? (Time out:0 days after 01-07-2002, 12:01)
Yes, its an offensive anthem with evil associations
No, it suits them, they never change
No, but Brazil should change theirs, oi vay!
Yes! Replace it with a Bananarama tune
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Alexander's Horse is offline Alexander's Horse
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I can't believe that Germany has "Deutchland Uber Alles" as its national anthem. Every time I hear it I'm reminded of the 2 World Wars and sickened by that militaristic tune.

I think they should change it.

Patashu is offline Patashu
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what are the words to it?

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I believe the potentially offensive verses were removed following WWII...

Alexander's Horse is offline Alexander's Horse
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quote:
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what are the words to it?


Evil German bastards rule the world and stuff like that.

ThePantaloonDog is offline ThePantaloonDog
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Well we could always start a war with them. I mean gosh its been 60 years since the last one ad I think we're a bit due.

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I want candy...

Stefu is offline Stefu
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You're just annoyed that your land is a girt in sea.

In any case, I have a suggestion for a new anthem. I haven't worked out melody yet, but words are crystal clear:

Ich bin Hans von Überhüber! Hohoho!
Ich habe Sauerkraut im mein Lederhosen!
Ich habe Kugelschreiber im mein Tannenbaum!
Panzerkampfwagen! Panzerkampfwagen!

*square dancing*

Ich bin Hans von Überhüber!
Ich habe ein Arschloch! Haben Sie ein Arscloch?
Deutschland! Deutschland! Achtung! Jawohl! Hohoho!
Panzerkampfwagen! Essen mein Scheisse!

*square dancing*

Ich habe ein Panzerkampfwagen.
Ich habe ein Panzerkampfwagen.
Ich habe ein Panzerkampfwagen.

*accordion playing*

Mein Panzerkampfwagen! Hohoho!

*square dancing, Poland-invading*

Alexander's Horse is offline Alexander's Horse
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Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog
Well we could always start a war with them. I mean gosh its been 60 years since the last one ad I think we're a bit due.


Good point

Their World Cup performance shows they are still a threat.

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what are the words to it?


I will give you a sample, because these are the only ones I know. These come right at the begging part that is supposed to be sung when the national anthem is played:

Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das Deutsche Vaterland
Danach lass uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand.

English:
Unity and (justice?) and freedom
For the German Fatherland
To that let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand

or so. I suck at translating poetry

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I think the German national anthem is just fine. And I don't think we have anything to worry about from Germany.

It is Australia we have to watch, forcing their tasteless culture onto our unsupecting teenagers in the form of these horrendous soap operas, brutally mistreating refugees why flee there thinking of it as a place of human rights etc. After their butchery of the rightful owners of the island - the Aboriginal natives - in unspeakable crimes against humanity maybe we should be imposing sanctions on them??

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Ja, seriously, what evil could possibly come from Deutschland?

Patashu is offline Patashu
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Do you like cheese?

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quote:
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Their World Cup performance shows they are still a threat.


You might want to be careful with that kind of sentiment. Oz did pretty well in the Sydney Olympics ...


After Deutschland's excellent performance throughout the tournament (especially given their reputed poor form going in) they should keep their anthem just as it is. Most fitting IMO ...

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Doh, come on, it's not a militaristic tune, in fact I think it's the most beautiful national anthem. They changed the "Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt" part long time ago...

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"I can't believe that Germany has "Deutchland Uber Alles" as its national anthem."

Only the third verse is the official one, the one Victor quoted.

But they should go find their own anthem, they stole the tune from us. Bastards.

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I'm curious, Roland, who was/were the composers?

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quote:
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I think they should change it.


I think you're obsessed with jews.


Oy vey!

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Ja, seriously, what evil could possibly come from Deutschland?


You're right. Evil come never directly from deutschland. But Evil come indirectly from Germany through Belgium ...
That always been like that !

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Don't forgot the Banana Anthem !

http://singalongwithme.com/banana/

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quote:
Originally posted by Victor Galis
Ja, seriously, what evil could possibly come from Deutschland?

Anyone remember The MLF Lullaby by Tom Lehrer

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean,
But that couldn't happen again.
We taught them a lesson in nineteen eighteen,
And they've hardly bothered us since then.

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You're right. Evil come never directly from deutschland. But Evil come indirectly from Germany through Belgium ...
That always been like that !



Your kind has been more evil to us than the Germans..........

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Your kind has been more evil to us than the Germans..........


THAT'S WHY GOD CREATED US !

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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


Evil German bastards rule the world and stuff like that.




What about the freedom of speech?

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I'm missing the option that both are supposed to immediately change their national anthem.

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You're right. Evil come never directly from deutschland. But Evil come indirectly from Germany through Belgium ...
That always been like that !


-Wasn't Hitler born in Austria? And apparently so was the anthem (according to Roland)... notice a pattern here?

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They don't have to change it into something new, just play it faster
Same goes for the Dutch anthem

I like Brazil's anthem

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THAT'S WHY GOD CREATED US !


I thought he did that because he had a sense of humor. Why else would there be a military power of your caliber with such an inherent streak of cowardice and incompetence?

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I like Brazil's anthem


What amazed me was it sounded like an orchestra on speed and it has words!!! The players were singing along.

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Why else would there be a military power of your caliber with such an inherent streak of cowardice and incompetence?


-Because France spent all of it's luck and destiny getting Napoleon, and now it is saving up for another great leader at some point down the line

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What amazed me was it sounded like an orchestra on speed and it has words!!! The players were singing along.

It was originally composed for a military band in 1832. The words only came in 1922.

 
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