02-07-2002 06:08									#1
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We had a chat today with Firaxians (Soren and Dan), and we learned 2 interesting things :

- about culture flipping cities, there will be a limit, which makes it possible to avoid culture flips with less than 20 units.
More precisely, a city has more chances to culture flip for each foreign national living in, and for each foreigner sqare within the radius. The number of squares + people affecting culture flip will be capped.

Soren said :
"there is a slight improvement in culture flipping coming with the next patch, but otherwise, we are happy with how it works..."
" i capped the number of citizens/squares which can affect the culture flip"
"thus, the max number of units to prevent a flip has been lowered."
"it's still pretty high, but it's no longer in the 20+ range (unless you don't have very much culture...)"


- about the commercial trait, it will become better :
"the commercial trait has been improved..."
"cities/metros get another extra commerce or two and it reduces corruption more than previously..."
"actually, it added 2 [cities to the optimal city number]. now, it adds 4 (normal size map)"

	02-07-2002 07:14									#2
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Cool stuff, thanks Spiffor. Maybe a trade empire with the english is posible after all

	02-07-2002 08:16									#3
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We also learned a great recipe for Welsh Rarebit fondue (with and without bacon).



Dan

	02-07-2002 09:11									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS We also learned a great recipe for Welsh Rarebit fondue (with and without bacon). Dan

I wonder how Firaxis plans on incorporating THAT into PTW.....

	02-07-2002 09:58									#5
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was this chat announced???
when did it take place??

	02-07-2002 10:08									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Amesjustin I wonder how Firaxis plans on incorporating THAT into PTW.....

I have it! The Welsh will be one of the civilizations, and the rabbit will be their special unit. Of course, that won't occur until the 2nd expanion, Cook the World. ;-)

Carl

	02-07-2002 14:03									#7
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Do we know yet when the next patch is coming out

	03-07-2002 02:44									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor - about the commercial trait, it will become better : "the commercial trait has been improved..." "cities/metros get another extra commerce or two and it reduces corruption more than previously..." "actually, it added 2 [cities to the optimal city number]. now, it adds 4 (normal size map)"

commercial trait is still not bad, expansionist however is...
my scout marches off, finds maybe a tech, a warrior and if i'm veeeeery lucky (once in approx. 20 games with expansionists) a settler. it might be fine on huge maps, but on my favorite (standard size) the advantages are minimal.

at the same time scientists, industrialists and commercialists can build some things cheaper. religious gets approx. 10 extra turns (no waiting between despotism-->monarchy-->republic-->democracy... on higher levels around 3-4 turns per change). and militaristic is a vital trait for all my games i go for domination victory (an army with 4 modern armours can kill 2-3 fortified (in metropolis) elite mech.infs in one turn.... and armies are expensive!

	03-07-2002 02:50									#9
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alva848 :
These informations have been given (I don't think it was an official announcement) yesterday night during an unexpected chat with Dan and Soren.

Deathwalker :
They didn't give us more info than that. However, I've read in other chats the patch is in testing phase, and will be out as soon as it works flawlessly.

	03-07-2002 03:14									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Deathwalker : They didn't give us more info than that. However, I've read in other chats the patch is in testing phase, and will be out as soon as it works flawlessly.

They stated that last night as well. Before Spiffor was on, I believe.

	03-07-2002 12:46									#11
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quote: Originally posted by copeknight I have it! The Welsh will be one of the civilizations, and the rabbit will be their special unit. Of course, that won't occur until the 2nd expanion, Cook the World. ;-) Carl

Pedant type = welsh

Welsh rarebit is absolutely nothing to do with rabbit. And the Welsh special unit should be an arsonist that burns down English holiday homes.

/pedant

	03-07-2002 18:44									#12
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Are you going to post a copy of the chat, like has been done in the past?

	03-07-2002 21:22									#13
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hi ,

there should be an option to control the level of culture flip's , some people like , if you dont build you lose the city , ...

have a nice day

	04-07-2002 04:59									#14
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Kring :
Sorry, I won't. It's not IRC, and it's more difficult to save chat contents. But I think I wrote every intersting citations I could read during my time in the chat.

	05-07-2002 03:08									#15
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Most of the time was spent making anybody who entered think that Soren and Dan gave us really interesting info that they haven't given out before.

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Most of the time was spent making anybody who entered think that Soren and Dan gave us really interesting info that they haven't given out before.

hi ,

do you feel that they did not , ....

have a nice day