02-07-2002 23:35									#1
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Do they exist?
And if so what are they?

	02-07-2002 23:51									#2
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No. Because you wouldn't be able to change governments if you owned any without tearing them down first.

	02-07-2002 23:58									#3
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w i thought that government-specific buildings would be possible with PTW?

	02-07-2002 23:58									#4
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They do not exist in the standard game.

However, I believe that you can modify existing improvements in the editor so that they give special benefits (i.e., happiness or military police effects) only during one or more designated governements (I have never done this, so I don't know for certain).

There is a "government" field in the improvements prerequisites list in the editor, IIRC; and I believe I recall somethig in a Firaxis readme or chat where a "government specific improvement" concept was mentioned as having been "fixed" (it seems that the benefits were uniterrupted by a government switch when they should hev been interrupted).

Sorry I couldn't be more definitive.

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	03-07-2002 00:56									#5
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Well I'll do some playing around in the editor. For example I'll make the court house specific to say representative govts and see if the effects go away with say, monarchy.

	03-07-2002 02:00									#6
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Its worth to talk about it .
In France they have the republican guard .
Communism had the party .
Maybe we could work something out with that ?

	03-07-2002 03:09									#7
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quote: Originally posted by kmill25 Do they exist? And if so what are they?

They only exist if you make them yourself. At this moment, the default game doesn't use them, though that might change with PTW.

	03-07-2002 03:13									#8
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So is it possible to amplify the effects of existing improvements, using the editor, under certain government types...?

For example, the new government type "fundamentalism", recently added in the editor, could double the effect of all religious improvements...if this were the case then maybe customized government types would have the ability to be more than simple variations on the default ones.

	03-07-2002 03:15									#9
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quote: Originally posted by kmill25 Well I'll do some playing around in the editor. For example I'll make the court house specific to say representative govts and see if the effects go away with say, monarchy.

Yes they will. The building will disappear from you city/build list, along with any effect they have. It will be like it doesn't exist. But if you go back to the gov that allows them, they will reappear.

	03-07-2002 03:28									#10
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quote: Originally posted by David Murray So is it possible to amplify the effects of existing improvements, using the editor, under certain government types...? For example, the new government type "fundamentalism", recently added in the editor, could double the effect of all religious improvements...if this were the case then maybe customized government types would have the ability to be more than simple variations on the default ones.

No, you'd have to create an improvement that only a single government can make or use. You can't select multiple govs to make use of a particular improvement. For example, you could create a City Hall improvement that only a Democracy could build or gain any effects from. With any other govs, it would simply disappear from the city and build lists.

	03-07-2002 05:16									#11
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From what I remember, you CAN create an improvement which is specific to a single government, the only problem is that, if you build it and then swap governments, the effects of the building still remain!! This fact was relayed to me by both Korn and Vel, both of whom are really BIG in the Mod community! I'm hoping that this loophole was simply a result of the Unsupported editor, and that it will be fixed with the next, Editor-Specific, patch!!

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

	03-07-2002 06:04									#12
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quote: Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker From what I remember, you CAN create an improvement which is specific to a single government, the only problem is that, if you build it and then swap governments, the effects of the building still remain!! This fact was relayed to me by both Korn and Vel, both of whom are really BIG in the Mod community! I'm hoping that this loophole was simply a result of the Unsupported editor, and that it will be fixed with the next, Editor-Specific, patch!! Yours, The_Aussie_Lurker.

Apparently that problem has been fixed with 1.21f. I haven't tested it myself yet though, so I can't verify. They did mention it as being resolved in the readme though.

	03-07-2002 18:17									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Willem You can't select multiple govs to make use of a particular improvement.

Which is very annoying, and will hopefully be fixed.

	04-07-2002 00:18									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Amadan Which is very annoying, and will hopefully be fixed.

I agree. It would be nice to have more "Either/Or" options available. For instance, religious buildings shouldn't work with Communism, at least not beyond Temple. But all other govs wouldn't have a problem with Cathedrals etc.

	04-07-2002 02:14									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Fitz No. Because you wouldn't be able to change governments if you owned any without tearing them down first.

That's kooky talk. The buildings just don't do anything unless you're in the proper government.