03-07-2002 13:39									#1
	More pop-ups, zero banners. Would you do it? Enter the AD-FREE zone

is anyone interested in a set of "ultra special" styles which would have more pop-ups and zero other banners(top and bottom)?

i know i am, but i dont want to do things here just for myself

currently special styles give a single pop-up every 12 hours(basically 1 per a day if you visit once per day). More info on the special style is here
http://apolyton.net/forums/misc.php...q&page=2#49

	03-07-2002 14:00									#2
	Inflate your Upload Space

I would like a system of having a style with no pop-ups and banners, like it is now!

	03-07-2002 14:06									#3
	Tired of ads?

please explain yourself

thank you

	03-07-2002 14:08									#4
	Put an end to popups!

I hate pop-ups. I would prefer no ads at all, but if I have to see ads I prefer banners.

	03-07-2002 14:21									#5
	Tired of ads?

I know pop-ups are better for the site because they bring in more money, but I absolutely despise pop-ups. I would be far, far more interested in a style with 0 pop-ups and more banners... (that includes pop-ups from going to external links or d/l-ing files)

	03-07-2002 17:01									#6
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I hate popups. Too intrusive. Very annoying. I won't click them, on principle -- yes, even if they advertise something I have a strong interest in.

MarkG, I don't remember if the newsletter is sponsored. My experience (different industry) is that targeted email vehicles have among the best click-through rates and are worth a premium price.

This is true, perhaps even moreso, for text-only formats like 'Poly's. The audience is subscribed and reads it when they have time. In other words, they have agreed to view the content. Text ads within text newsletters are less intrusive, and "feel" more like content. They also gain credibility as being deeply supportive of the site (where banners and popups inspire a much more cynical reaction).

It may be an extra revenue stream worth exploring.

	03-07-2002 17:36									#7
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thanks for the note jrabbit

	03-07-2002 18:05									#8
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Banners are OK, Pop-ups are abominations.

They are horrible when your trying to navigate, eating resources and attempting redirects.

I voted a big no to them.

	03-07-2002 18:41									#9
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Pop-ups are annoying, but I might give the style a try, given that those two popups don't appear again for 6 hours, at least. I'm usually online more than that, but 2 popup sightings aren't too bad. At least I would give it a try.

Though banners aren't bad, I can't see what's wrong with them. They sit in the corner, doing nothing, why not?

	03-07-2002 18:45									#10
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Good heavens, no! Pop-ups are the devil's own work.

	03-07-2002 18:48									#11
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quote: two popups don't appear again for 6 hours

it wouldnt be two pop-ups together, but one (1) more frequent(6 hours instead of 12)

quote: They sit in the corner, doing nothing, why not?

faster loading, more "space" on the page(i personally cant stand the non-special styles now). and you could be offended by our "god bless apolyton" ads

	03-07-2002 18:52									#12
	Remove this text

i mean you browse apolyton for what, 15 hours per day? you'd just get 2 pop-ups

	03-07-2002 18:53									#13
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2 popups per day is 3 too many

	03-07-2002 18:55									#14
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I don't mind banners or even pop-ups/unders/interstitials.. when used with taste as Markos is doing here but generally speaking I do object to the tracking done on web ads. So I'll continue to block them where I can. Give me a paypal link and your amazon shopping link, I'll use them.

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	03-07-2002 19:03									#15
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: Originally posted by cthon So I'll continue to block them where I can.

i'll ignore the comment

quote: Give me a paypal link

thanks, we dont accept donations

quote: and your amazon shopping link, I'll use them.

thanks again, look at the bottom of the forum pages

	03-07-2002 19:08									#16
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I also would not mind giving the new style a try. I have a bad connection and if the pages could load faster it would be easier for me. Why not?

	03-07-2002 19:25									#17
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Uhm Markos, the only valid point about banners you say is loading times, but it's only an issue with modem (get a better connection there), and I'm a cable user.

Page space? Bah, on 800x600 anyway .

I would try it, 2 popups per day don't matter much. And BTW, yes, I think 15 hours is enough here per day, no?

	03-07-2002 19:33									#18
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quote: it's only an issue with modem (get a better connection there), and I'm a cable user

that hasnt stoped you from have speed issues

	03-07-2002 19:44									#19
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I really don't care about banners, as long as they're on the top and on the bottom.

And about downloading speed............
uh..... get a good connection. (or put pictures off)

I would never use a version with more pop-ups.
Pop-ups are the surfer's nightmare.

	03-07-2002 20:08									#20
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Hmmmm...
banners that slow loading times and more on a page, or 2 pop up ads in a 15 hour time frame...

As much as I also think pop up ads are the spawn of the devil and shouldn't be allowed on the internet... In this case, I don't think 2 pop up ads in 15 hours is bad at all. So for once, I vote for the pop up ads.

	03-07-2002 20:08									#21
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Tell me, how much do you make off the Amazon sales? (I will probably buy either NWN or AOW2 soon, might as well give something to Apolyton in the process, no?)

	03-07-2002 21:45									#22
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Ming, you didn't vote on the poll, you should then vote Yes .

	03-07-2002 21:52									#23
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Unless he voted for the "try" it option.

	03-07-2002 21:55									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis Unless he voted for the "try" it option.

Exactly... There is no way I could vote yes to pop up ads... shudder... But I'm willing to give it a try. If they are as infrequent as MarkG suggests... I think it would be better than those stupid banners (with the exception of the Bush Banner )

	03-07-2002 22:15									#25
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I didn't vote, so don't put those neese away yet.

	03-07-2002 22:39									#26
	Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis Tell me, how much do you make off the Amazon sales? (I will probably buy either NWN or AOW2 soon, might as well give something to Apolyton in the process, no?)

Mark told me he makes more off Chips&Bits than Amazon, if that is an option for you.

	03-07-2002 22:50									#27
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I'd give it a try.

People who don't want this new style can just ignore it.

	03-07-2002 22:56									#28
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I would give it a try. If you can choose between a style with banners and no pop-up and a style with no banners, but pop-ups, everybody could choose whatever he/she prefered.

	03-07-2002 23:31									#29
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Can we have a style with bananas instead of banners?

	03-07-2002 23:32									#30
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

don't make it the forum default option though