03-07-2002 21:03									#1
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i've read alot about the bugs of the patch (i don't recall the name, but it's the new one). i don't know much about computers, but the patch seems to create alot of problems. would it be worth it to install?

	03-07-2002 21:20									#2
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It worked for me but Caveat Emptor! Be advised you will have to download updates for any add-on programs and your old scenarios and saved games will not work with the new version (1.21) so if you’re currently playing a game you should finish it before you install the patch.

	03-07-2002 21:49									#3
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That is a false statement. I had no troubles with saved games when I updated to 1.21. Maybe you had a different experience, but that doesn't mean everyone will. To answer the question I think 1.21 pretty much makes the game what it should have been out of the box.

	04-07-2002 18:17									#4
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It was most likely due to the fact I was using the add-on programs before they were upgraded to the new standard. In no way was I suggesting that the patch was in any way flawed.

	04-07-2002 18:37									#5
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After downloading the patch, I realised that I got no Luxury resourcess in any of the games I played. I soon realised that this was because the setting in the editor had been set to 0 in appearance. I just want to know whether this has happened to anyone else, and what the correct appearance is supposed to be. I simply put it on 200, and am getting a whole lot of them, wondering whether it is too much ?

	04-07-2002 18:45									#6
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I have not had many problems with the latest patch (1.21f IIRC). What I liked the most was probably the ability to make bombardment lethal and the bugfixes. One thing I don't like is the limitation on food in the city-tile. I hope they make that an option.

I think there is some bugs in the newer scenario-stuff in the editor, but I have not used that yet. Civ 3 is IMHO much better with 1.21f than ever before.

	04-07-2002 19:02									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Papa Chubby After downloading the patch, I realised that I got no Luxury resourcess in any of the games I played. I soon realised that this was because the setting in the editor had been set to 0 in appearance. I just want to know whether this has happened to anyone else, and what the correct appearance is supposed to be. I simply put it on 200, and am getting a whole lot of them, wondering whether it is too much ?

Mine is 0 all the way with lux. but I still get luxuries. I have tried though to get maps without gems! Which was pretty lame since I had modded a unit to require ... Gems

So now I use Silk or wine when letting a unit require luxury. I think I saw a firaxian state that lux dosn't use the appearence-ratio at all, but I don't think that is correct as my own tests (though not in 1.21f) seemed to show otherwise.

	04-07-2002 19:09									#8
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So me changing the appearance ratio in the editor changed nothing.....

	04-07-2002 21:49									#9
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Yoy can set it to disappear though.
Ive tried this in a few games and the strange thing is that, every time i connected the first one , it dissapeared the very next turn

	04-07-2002 22:08									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Papa Chubby After downloading the patch, I realised that I got no Luxury resourcess in any of the games I played. I soon realised that this was because the setting in the editor had been set to 0 in appearance. I just want to know whether this has happened to anyone else, and what the correct appearance is supposed to be. I simply put it on 200, and am getting a whole lot of them, wondering whether it is too much ?

When you set it to 0, the number of resources happens randomly, which is the default for Luxuries. So if you weren't getting them, it's just because you were having bad luck. The highest number you can set it to is 300, which, according to the editor help, works out to roughly 3.5 resources per civ, in an 8 civ game, though not necessarily in any particular territory. Leaving it at random, or 0, you generally will get more than that. But as you've noticed, you can also get worse. It all depends on how lucky you are in that particular game.

	05-07-2002 00:15									#11
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Has anyone else had maps with little or no gems severel times? I have heard about one that had the same thing happening, just with oil instead of gems.

	05-07-2002 08:25									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Firebird Has anyone else had maps with little or no gems severel times? I have heard about one that had the same thing happening, just with oil instead of gems.

A few People have mentioned this, I think it's not that bad actually, presents you with a new challenge, and you deffinately have to change your playing style

Although I don't think this is supossed to happen. I like the fact that sometimes something doesn't occur. I would like to see more of this , You could even file this under random events maybe