20-08-2002 22:41									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov Thrawnus: Hoc magnum est. Tamen, unus casus est. "Romanus" singularis est-- "Romani" (aut "Romanes" ) Romanis tersum nomen est. Vladus (BTW, Multae laudationes de perveniente "Rex". )

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	20-08-2002 22:46									#32
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Ok, I goofed, I already have Gauls.

However, here are some things I want to do to this mod to make it better.

First, I would like to change the leaders to those who were in power in the time of the Roman Empire.

Also, I've been tinkering with the sounds for many of the early units such as Warriors, Archers, and Legionarys. Mostly taking sounds from the movie Gladiator and replacing the ones in the game.

However, I still need to work out the timing, since they play too fast (I have the right audio quality).


Below is an up to date list of units and their Latin names. I know I provided one with the game, but this one will be easier to maintan and I won't have to keep uploading text files.


And remember: "There is always someone else to fight."

	20-08-2002 22:48									#33
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/***********************
Civ3 Latin Unit List
Civ3 Latin Units.txt
Thrawn05
08/22/2002

COMMENT: This update of the list has some spelling fixes and translation corrections
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//This list is for those who want to have the units translated.
//The list goes as follows

//ORIGINALUNITNAME
//LATINUNITNAME
//

//The list will follow the units will be in the order used in Civ3edit.exe

//For corrections, etc, please e-mail me at thrawn05@hotmaill.com
//Or visit me at apolyton.net

/************************************************
**********************LIST**********************
************************************************/

Settler
Colonus

Worker
Operarius

Scout
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Explorer
Explorator

Marine
Miles

Paratrooper
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Warrior
Bellator

Archer
Sagittarius

Spearman
Homo Hasta

Swordsman
Homo Gladius

Chariot
Essedum

Horseman
Homo Equus

Pikeman
Arma Homo Hasta
//Since Pike and Spear are the same, I decided to called it, "Armored" Pikeman.

Longbowman
Sagittarius Longus

Muskteman
Homo Sclopetum

Knight
Eques

Rifleman
Homo Nigrum Pulvis
//Musket and Rifle are the same, I called this unit "Black Powder" Man.

Cavalry
Equitatus

Infantry
Peditatus

Tank
Lacus
//Even though Tank is in the books, I think they mean a "water" tank, but who cares.

Mech Infantry
Arma Peditatus

Modern Armor
Lacus Provectus

Catapult
Catapulta

Cannon
Tormentum
//You know, I like that word.

Artillery
Tormenta

Radar Artillery
Tormenta Provectus

Cruise Missile
Missile

Tactical Nuke
Missile Magnus
//Still working on this one, if I find a better translation I will post it at apolyton.net

ICBM
/*NO TRANSLATION*/
//That and too lazy to work it out.

Galley
Longus

Caravel
Navis

Frigate
Navis Magnum

Galleon
Oneraria
//There are enough Navis out there, this is the fem version of it.

Ironclad
Navis Ferrum

Transport
Oneraria Magna

Carrier
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Submarine
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Detroyer
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Battleship
Navis Pugna

AEGIS Cruiser
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Nuclear Submarine
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Fighter
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Bomber
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Helicopter
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Jet Fighter
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Stealth Fighter
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Stealth Bomber
/*NO TRANSLATION*/

Leader
Dux

Army
Exercitus

Jaguar Warrior
Bellator Iagua

Bowman
Sagittarius Babylonius
//I wanted it to be different from the normal Sag.

Hoplite
Hoplomachus

Impi
Impi
//Didn't realy know what to do with it, could fool me.

Legionary
Legio

Immortals
Immortalis

War Chariot
Essedum Bellum

Rider
Rector

Mounted Warrior
Bellator Equistris

Musketeer
Sclopetum Galium

Samurai
Samurai
//Same with Impi... I let this one fly.

War Elephant
Elephantus bello
//Thanks to jsw363. Elephant of war sounded better.
//For reference, I'm leaving my translation here: Elephantus Bellum

Cossack
Cossacum
//I dropped the k and added um, sounds like a dumb english grammer rule to me.

Panzer
/*NO TRANSLATION*/
//If you like, place the full German name here

Man-O-War
Navis Britannicus

F-15
/*NO TRANSLATIONS*/

Privateer
Navis Barbarum

Last edited by Thrawn05 on 23-08-2002 at 08:28

	21-08-2002 07:06									#34
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doin good thrawn, doin good

	22-08-2002 21:33									#35
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hi ,

, 100% pure latin , seems

say , where is the Greek one , ....

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	22-08-2002 21:40									#36
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Does bellum means war?

	22-08-2002 23:01									#37
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Yes, yes it does.

	22-08-2002 23:07									#38
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IIRC, a quick grammatical point regarding Elephantus bellum:

I would have translated it either Elephantus bellicus or Elephantus bello.
One is "War (adj. nominative) Elephant" and the other is "Elephant of War" (dative of purpose).

Your translation is War (noun) Elephant (noun), which doesn't really make sense to me, but of course my Latin is a bit rusty. It would be helpful just for me if you'd explain your rationale.

Also, a more common word for elephant is barrus, or barrinus.

This was just the example that I chose, but I think that some of your other translations might face similar issues.

	23-08-2002 08:22									#39
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This is why I asked for help. Thank you. My ending are rusty as well.


I made some spelling errors, particularly with the Russians. So I will change it and upload a new version ASAP tomorrow (which will be 08/27/2002). Your suggestions will be added in it as well.

	23-08-2002 08:32									#40
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A notice about chaning unit names. I found that changing the Worker, Settler, Army, Leader units tends to make the game crash every now and then for me. I don't know about anyone else, but be forwarned.


Just a reminder:
Always remember to find some extra HD space and just make back up copies of all the units (if you have a CDR drive, burn them). This will make fixing mistakes if you didn't copy the folder first and then rename the copy. I learned this the hard way.

	23-08-2002 08:36									#41
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , , 100% pure latin , seems say , where is the Greek one , .... have a nice day

I think you shiould ask MarkG for that.


I know the letters, not anything else.

	23-08-2002 12:33									#42
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Here are my suggestions. Could definitely use someone to proofread them...

Settler
Colonus

Worker
Operarius

Scout
Rimorator

Explorer
Explorator

Marine
Miles

Paratrooper
Bellator Caelo (Warrior from the sky)

Warrior
Bellator

Archer
Sagittarius

Spearman
Iaculator (Javelin Man)

Swordsman
Bellator Gladio (Warrior with Sword)

Chariot
Essedarius (One who fights from a chariot)

Horseman
Bellator Equuo (Warrior with Horse)

Pikeman
Bellator Telo (Warrior with a Pike)

Longbowman
Sagittarius Longus (Hard to translate this. Right now this means Long Archer, not Longbowman)

Muskteman
Bellator Sclopeto (Warrior with Musket)

Knight
Eques

Rifleman
Bellator Nigro Pulvere (Warrior with Black Powder)

Cavalry
Equitatus

Infantry
Peditatus

Tank
Plaustrum Armatum (Armored Cart, the best approximation I could make)

Mech Infantry
Peditatus Armatus (Armored Infantry)

Modern Armor
Plaustrum Armatum Renovatum (New Armored Cart)

Catapult
Ballista

Cannon
Ballista Nigro Pulvere (Catapult with Black Powder)

Artillery
Tormentum

Radar Artillery
Tormentum Radiatus (Artillery with Spokes or Rays)

Cruise Missile
Missilis

Tactical Nuke
Missilis Explosum (Exploding Missile)

ICBM
Misilis Loginquitate (Missile from a long distance)

Galley
Longus

Caravel
Navis

Frigate
Navis Velivola (Ship with Sails)

Galleon
Oneraria

Ironclad
Navis Ferri (Ship of Iron)

Transport
Oneraria Magna

Carrier
Navis Portato (Ship for the purpose of Carrying)

Submarine
Navis Submarina (Undersea Ship)

Detroyer
Navis Perditioni (Ship for the purpose of destruction)

Battleship
Navis Bello (Ship for War)

AEGIS Cruiser
Navis Missile (Ship with Missiles)

Nuclear Submarine
Navis Submarina Missile (Submarine with Missiles)

Fighter
Ala (Winged Bird)

Bomber
Volator (Hunter of Birds)

Helicopter
Ala Radiata (Bird with Spokes)

Jet Fighter
Ala Igne (Bird with Fire)

Stealth Fighter
Ala Furte (Stealthy Bird)

Stealth Bomber
Volator Furte (Stealthy Hunter of Birds)

Leader
Dux

Army
Exercitus

Jaguar Warrior
Bellator Iagua

Bowman
Sagittarius Babylonius

Hoplite
Hoplomachus

Impi
Impi

Legionary
Legio

Immortals
Immortales

War Chariot
Essedarius Bello (Chariot for War)

Rider
Vectus

Mounted Warrior
Bellator Equestris

Musketeer
Sclopetum Gallorum

Samurai
Samurai

War Elephant
Elephantus bello

Cossack
Cossacum

Panzer
Plaustrum Armatum Germanicum (German Armored Cart)

Man-O-War
Navis Bello (Ship of War)

F-15
Ala Igne Americana (American Bird of Fire)

Privateer
Navis Barbara

So let me know what you think....

	23-08-2002 16:05									#43
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quote: Pikeman Bellator Telo (Warrior with a Pike)

Lanciarius

	23-08-2002 16:15									#44
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hi ,

some famous american univ has a nice website

if offers great translations and a complete list of more the a zillion words

lets see if it can be found - might take some time

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	23-08-2002 19:39									#45
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quote: Originally posted by jsw363 Catapult Ballista So let me know what you think....

I ballista the plural or singularis word?

F-15
Ala Igne Americana (American Bird of Fire)

What about F-15? The other name is a little long and strange.

Why am I writing this? I can't understand latin!

	23-08-2002 20:46									#46
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Cataphractus might be a better translation for horseman also, though they were heavily armored.

Lanciarius is a great suggestion. Thanks Marcus.

Ballista, ae is a first declension femenine noun in the singular.

	23-08-2002 21:32									#47
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In 2.1, I fixed some spelling. Particulary Russia and Greece. I also translated "Bissy's" tital (I must have skipped it).

I'm looking if anyone found a latin word for Japan. None of my books have it (only china, FYI: Roman fought the chinese once, but had the same prob as Alexander when it come to expanding beyond India).

I also included another bic file called Imperial Government. It's a work in progress gov that I want to add to the game, but don't want it added directly to the latin mod just yet, mainly because I'm trying my best not to change too much of the rules.

Let me know what you think of it.

	23-08-2002 21:39									#48
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I need some time for your unit translations. THey are all very good, and my books are only good for so much. I tried to talk to my Latin teacher a while back when I was first starting this for some help, but only teaches from the book. It doesn't know what SPQR really stands for.

I'll work on the unit list post by this comming monday (VIII/XXVI/MMI)



I'm very greatful for the input. And it's totaly welcome. Feel free to change the unit translations for yourselves if you wish. That is one of the reasons I didn't add the folder and *.ini files.


Remeber: Carthago in Africa ERANT!

	23-08-2002 23:24									#49
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Japan = Iapon, is

I remembered that often maps were rendered in Latin until quite recently and found a map with Japan on it in Latin.

http://www.rossmaps.com/asia_whole_..._blaeu_3590.htm

Glad to be of help.

	23-08-2002 23:42									#50
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quote: Originally posted by jsw363 Japan = Iapon, is I remembered that often maps were rendered in Latin until quite recently and found a map with Japan on it in Latin. http://www.rossmaps.com/asia_whole_..._blaeu_3590.htm Glad to be of help.

Is it me or is that map totally unreadable?

	23-08-2002 23:47									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Hagbart Is it me or is that map totally unreadable?

If you read the text accompanying the map it mentions the Latin word for Japan. I then cross-referenced this a couple of other places.

	24-08-2002 00:35									#52
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quote: Originally posted by jsw363 Japan = Iapon, is I remembered that often maps were rendered in Latin until quite recently and found a map with Japan on it in Latin. http://www.rossmaps.com/asia_whole_..._blaeu_3590.htm Glad to be of help.

Very interesting. I'm wonder why none of my books have japan in it.

This has been noted and corrected accordingly. Unfortunatly, you cought me after I mad the update. I will upload a new version on monday with this correction.


EDIT: Because I can't find it in any of my books. Does anyone know the declension Iapon belongs to if any? I need to know the Noun/Adj before I make the update. Thank you.

	24-08-2002 01:59									#53
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quote: Very interesting. I'm wonder why none of my books have japan in it.

I believe the Latin name for Japan doesn't come from the Romans, but is more a scientific term from the Rennaisance. I even found a list somewhere with latin names for cities that didn't even exist until the latter part of the middle ages, or later.

	24-08-2002 03:53									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 Does anyone know the declension Iapon belongs to if any? I need to know the Noun/Adj before I make the update. Thank you.

3rd declension Iapon, is.

Marcus- That's highly likely as all cartography and scientific writing in Europe was done in Latin through the Renaissance. I am sure that they came upon new things that they needed to create names for in Latin.

	24-08-2002 09:06									#55
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surprised by the number of latin speakers (or readers. Im glad to say my little sister is taking up the language, a step in the right direction if i ever saw one. SPQR

	24-08-2002 19:23									#56
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quote: Originally posted by jsw363 3rd declension Iapon, is.

Thank you. Third declension is aaaaaaalways fun.


Barfus: Toga...Toga...Toga...Toga...

	24-08-2002 19:32									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus I believe the Latin name for Japan doesn't come from the Romans, but is more a scientific term from the Rennaisance.

That is what I was thinking. There is no latin word for the Russians, but a tribal name south west of present day moscow.

If I recal, when the Romans were attacking the germans, the germans were being attacked from behind. I'm sure if this group was Samartia, but it would look like it on the map (Prelude to WWII? )

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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 This has been noted and corrected accordingly. Unfortunatly, you cought me after I mad the update. I will upload a new version on monday with this correction.

For reasons for the fact that I've been hired to make an outline of a Q3 level and because some of the suggested unit changes are not in my books (odd), this will be delayed until this wednesday. Thank you for your time.

	27-08-2002 05:26									#59
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Sarmatia

	27-08-2002 06:11									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Barfus Sarmatia

what about it?