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Thrawn05 is offline Thrawn05
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For those Roman players like me out there, I translated as much as I can from the Civ3 editor. I can safely say 90%, with the exception being the units ( ), is translated.

No rules have been changed, and no map created. It is absolutely Civ3 1.21f, except for the Latin. Some Wonders I couldn't translate, only because I just couldn't find anything that would work. I'm working on it though. Some things such as Saltpeter, I had to change to "gun powder", which is basicly the same thing.

I need to work out the proper ending on some of the words, I'm also working on that.

Please read the ReadMe file in the zip for info on how to contact me with e-mail, or just post below.

EDIT: Sorry I screwed up. The new download is below.

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You should contact Jacobite1688 (or some # sequence like that). He is translating the entirety of CivII into Latin, and was recently recruiting helpers.

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Let's see...If it's just a mod it should probably not be any copyright issues, but if you start mixing with the textfiles you should make sure to contact Infogrames first and ask for permission.

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are Infogrames planning a Latin release?

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Marquis de Sodaq: I don't have CivII, so I can't help there

Gramphos: I just changed the names from the editor. I didn't go near any of the text files. I'd love to try out the Diplo text file, but every time I look at it, I get a heart attack.

Immortal: We can hope.

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Proabably not, but they still have the copyright, and permissio0n is needed to do a translation.

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Proabably not, but they still have the copyright, and permissio0n is needed to do a translation.


Heaven forbid Infogrames would lose sales in Vatican City if someone were to translate.

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It's not about that, it's just about laws. If you are up to edit more then what yuo can change with the editor, then you should write to infogrames,and not do anything before you get a possitive reply.

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Listen to Gramphos, somebody actually got in trouble last year because of a similar situation.

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Listen to Gramphos, somebody actually got in trouble last year because of a similar situation.


I always listen to Gramphos.


I'm rethinking some of my other mods that I might to put on the back burner because of that.

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this is great......i love rome....as a matter of fact, i havent played a game as someone other than rome, except twice, since i bought CIV2!!! i literally cant stand to play against rome. i never thought anyone would think to translate into latin.....i certainly am too busy. you guys really only play as rome? whats your strategy with them?

ps- i have a tattoo of spqr. im that deliriously in love with the ancient culture...

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this is great......i love rome....as a matter of fact, i havent played a game as someone other than rome, except twice, since i bought CIV2!!! i literally cant stand to play against rome. i never thought anyone would think to translate into latin.....i certainly am too busy. you guys really only play as rome? whats your strategy with them?

ps- i have a tattoo of spqr. im that deliriously in love with the ancient culture...


Yes, although I'm a builder type player, and would be better off the playing as the Babs, I play as Rome only because they are Rome, and I really like the UU. I head straight for Ferrum and then for Respublica. I'm not big on starting a war that early in the game, so I basicly play defensively. If I have to, I will fight for that Ferrum in the enemy territory.

If you want further information, I suggest talking to some of the big boys of stragety on this forums, such as Vel, I'm shure he has a few pointers.

ROMA VICTOR!

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thats funny, i like to sit and build to....every improvement...i cant help it.

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I have a new version. 1.0b. I tried to attach it to the first post, but I screwed up. Sorry.


Anyway here it is!

EDIT: VERSION 2.1, PLEASE READ BELOW

Attachment: latin21.zip
This has been downloaded 197 time(s).

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)Please read the Readme file for more info. However, here is a slight overview.



I translated a couple more Wonders. I also changed Rome's great leaders and changed their shuned government from Communism to Monarchy. Reasons why are in the readme file (which is new and improved! ).

Also, I beg again, ANYONE who has a better grasp at latin and thinks he/she found an error, or a suggestion, PLEASE TELL ME!


ROMA VICTOR.

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I've noticed a bug with the new patch and this mod. Don't know why. I've tried to make a new one from the ground up (a quick, few translations in each section). For now I'm continueing to make my mod for 1.21f until I get this fixed. Anyone else who finds that the game crashes when either building a unit or opening a save game (from either 1.21f or 1.29r), please send me your save game on this thread.

I'll post again if I find a solution, until then, all of my latin mods are going to be designed for 1.21f in mind, NOT 1.29f.


Sorry about this, please give my mod a try anyway. I'm going upload either this sat or sun a newer version.

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This is from dictionary.com

[Middle English salpetre, from Old French, from Medieval Latin slpetrae : Latin sl, salt; see sal- in Indo-European Roots + Latin petrae, genitive of petra, rock (from Greek petr. See per-2 in Indo-European Roots).]

http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=saltpeter

and from www.m-w.com:

Etymology: Middle English salt petre, alteration of salpetre, from Middle French, from Medieval Latin sal petrae, literally, salt of the rock


That help any?

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hey thrawn, do you play rome no matter what? and how much are you "in to" them? i was thinking of making a mod so comprehensive that it would make rome the best civ to play.

not making them the only one that could win, but making the game "Rome-oriented". Im not quite sure how to explain this, but if you are at all interested, please respond. I was thiking something along the lines of more Roman unique units, completely redone tech tree, different wonders/improvements, etc. I mean, I NEVER play anyone but the romans, so I might as well make the game into "Roman Civilization." Thats what I was thinking of calling the mod.

Alright, well, if youre interested, write........

BTW, are you really from VC? I was also thinking it would be cool to start a Roman Civ3 clan. But im not sure about it yet, but you seem Roman enough to be down with it.

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Version 2.0 is here! And it's 1.29f ready. Fix a little bug, by reworking the entire thing by scratch.


I included a text file that lists a bunch of translations for the units. This will be the last update unless someone found and error or suggests a correction. I'm gonna try to work on my other mods now. Roma Victor!

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This is from dictionary.com

[Middle English salpetre, from Old French, from Medieval Latin slpetrae : Latin sl, salt; see sal- in Indo-European Roots + Latin petrae, genitive of petra, rock (from Greek petr. See per-2 in Indo-European Roots).]

http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=saltpeter

and from www.m-w.com:

Etymology: Middle English salt petre, alteration of salpetre, from Middle French, from Medieval Latin sal petrae, literally, salt of the rock


That help any?


Noted. thanks, unfortunatly, I uploaded my mod just before I read this. I'll pack it in after I find a couple of more suggestions. Thank you.

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hey thrawn, do you play rome no matter what? and how much are you "in to" them? i was thinking of making a mod so comprehensive that it would make rome the best civ to play.

not making them the only one that could win, but making the game "Rome-oriented". Im not quite sure how to explain this, but if you are at all interested, please respond. I was thiking something along the lines of more Roman unique units, completely redone tech tree, different wonders/improvements, etc. I mean, I NEVER play anyone but the romans, so I might as well make the game into "Roman Civilization." Thats what I was thinking of calling the mod.

Alright, well, if youre interested, write........

BTW, are you really from VC? I was also thinking it would be cool to start a Roman Civ3 clan. But im not sure about it yet, but you seem Roman enough to be down with it.


yes I always play as Rome (as a confession, the Babs once). I took a european map and trying right now to basicly copy my geographic explorer's Roman Empire map I have into Civ3, basicly a single civ game. Just protect the boarders and such from barbarians. I have to find who made the map for permission to release it and to further it.

No, I don't live in VC, I'm in the US, but since I'm all for the Roman Empire and Catholic... what the hell. I was going to do Irish (Since I'm Irish), but they didn't have one that DIDN'T have the orange in it .

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haha, like one with just the green field and then the gold harp? yeah, screw those protestant traitors. actually, im not catholic personally, but if i WAS to pick something, and being as i love rome and all....well, anyway....im still working on that mod, so if youre interested...and what map is that exactly? can you get it off national geographics website?

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haha, like one with just the green field and then the gold harp? yeah, screw those protestant traitors. actually, im not catholic personally, but if i WAS to pick something, and being as i love rome and all....well, anyway....im still working on that mod, so if youre interested...and what map is that exactly? can you get it off national geographics website?



I'm botched the my map to hell, so you're our only hope. The map I used came from a NG magazine I got a few years ago, I'm not sure if you can get it off of their website.

The map is called:

Great Peoples Of The Past: The Romans

It was printed in July of 1997

The large map on the one site shows Rome at it's hight during the years 69 - 138 AD, when Rome aquired Dracia and much of the Black Sea as well as reaching the Persian Gulf. It shows you the roads, cities, and resources from each area.

It also has smaller maps of each of the different periods of Roman history.

Hope this was of some help.

As for me, and the fact that several of my other mods in limbo do to my lack of artisic abilitys/software and the limitations with the Civ3 engine, there is not much I can do expect place cities and units and playtest. If you need those two, give me a buzz.

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alright, lmme see what i can do. im working on some roman AH fiction right now, osim kind of busy....lots of projects..too many on the back burner

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alright, lmme see what i can do. im working on some roman AH fiction right now, osim kind of busy....lots of projects..too many on the back burner


Same here, once somebody tells me how to fix my AvP mod, then I'll be kicking off with that.

I also have lots of ideas for other people such as the guys working on a Star Wars mod... I just have to stop being lazy and contact them.

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thats funny....if i had any time id probably be working on a star wars mod...astonishingly similar interests, n'est pas?

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thats funny....if i had any time id probably be working on a star wars mod...astonishingly similar interests, n'est pas?


From what I understand, someone is trying to make a battleground type game for Civ3 (yuk). I was thinking of more of a Rebellion type Civ3 game. I've been toying around with a map.

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well, whatever you come u pwith will surely be interesting. but, for now, i must sleep, so as to work on my AH novel tomorrow. ROMA INVICTA!!!

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General FYI

I'll be making another update by the end of this month (august 2002). The reason is I that's I'm fixing some translations and adding some new names.


As a reminder I ask people for suggestions to the translations.

I'm also considering additional civs, such as Carthage and Gaul. However, I will have to find pictures of their leaders, and most likely they will be still images (although I'm bad at animation, I can convert images to *.flc format).

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Thrawnus:



Hoc magnum est. Tamen, unus casus est. "Romanus" singularis est-- "Romani" (aut "Romanes" ) Romanis tersum nomen est.

Vladus

(BTW, Multae laudationes de perveniente "Rex". )

 
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