07-07-2002 01:26									#1
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I don't remember if all victory conditions are turned on, thought I think they are:

Is it too early to ask which victory condition we want to achieve? When will this question be asked formally?
Are we going for conquest, dominion, Space, cultural, or diplomatic?

	07-07-2002 01:27									#2
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conquest

	07-07-2002 01:40									#3
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GePap :
You raised a question which will be the big debate in Apolytonia once we'll establish a stable power. All victory conditions are turned on, as the polls decided before the game started.

As a builder, I'd go for spaceship victory in priority. However, I only speak for myself, and not on behalf of the DIA (we didn't adress this question thoroughly for now)

	07-07-2002 01:55									#4
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I am all for conquest-- or if we are in the position to do so, diplomatic. I've never won diplomatically but I get the impression it would be very hard. Science victory is just silly-- Civ2 method was better.

	07-07-2002 02:12									#5
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I'd like a Space victory, but a cultural one could be great too.

	07-07-2002 03:43									#6
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I don't know how we'll win, but if we avoid losing it will be by the skin of our teeth.

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor As a builder, I'd go for spaceship victory in priority. However, I only speak for myself, and not on behalf of the DIA (we didn't adress this question thoroughly for now)

I also like the spaceship victory. Parties are going to play a huge role here. All the parties have different agendas so some major problems could arise.

	07-07-2002 05:26									#8
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BURN THEM ALL!!!

im a pyromaniac by the way...

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Cultural and domination are boring as there's no build up.

You just get a message pop up saying you've won by the way now stop playing.

	07-07-2002 05:38									#10
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Spaceship! There's no feeling like a space race!

Diplomatic is not that hard actually epistax.

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we need to survive before we start thinking of winning anyways...

	07-07-2002 08:07									#12
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I think eventually we'll win by Domination.

	07-07-2002 08:16									#13
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haha,
I believe the question really is:
"How will we survive?"

	07-07-2002 09:57									#14
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DOMINATION

just feels good to look at your empire, know your the best and

	07-07-2002 10:00									#15
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Things are gonna get SO messy for whatever govt. loses the first city

Ice

*cough* DIA *cough*

	07-07-2002 11:10									#16
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Yes, I pity the fool who happens to be Prez when someone launches a sneak attacka and sacks one of our border cities. The opposing party will have a picnic , thats for sure. Because this is an iron man competition, we can't afford to make mistakes. As for how we will win, that will most likely not be seen for a couple of thousand years. Domination will only be possibile if the opponents get locked into nasty MPP wars they can't break from , in which they raze cities or leave them in shambles. . Otherwise space flight will be the best option, as our natural human intelligence advantage will help us get ahead in the tech game soon.

	07-07-2002 11:12									#17
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As an honorable Imperalist Knight, I demand destruction on the battlefield over a shamless defeat to space!

	07-07-2002 13:50									#18
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I hope either conquest of domination. Although, how many civs did we choose?

	07-07-2002 14:41									#19
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Huge map, 16 civs. I'm not sure about water coverage, I think it's random.

	07-07-2002 14:45									#20
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Hi,

All out war until we secure a 20 - 30 city empire. At that point re-assess the situation. It may be that there are a significant number of civs on our starting land mass. If that is so, a conquest victory looks more achievable.

If the world is split into 3 or more differing land masses then we may have to opt for a space ship victory.

Either way don't forget to use diplomacy to secure a mutual defence with the 2 top powers and use them to keep the rest weak while building up at home!

Cultural & UN victories are just no fun =p

SithUK

	07-07-2002 16:28									#21
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quote: Originally posted by JSeeds haha, I believe the question really is: "How will we survive?"

Agreed.

* MrWhereItsAt invests in canned bananas for the long months of rationing ahead

	07-07-2002 16:55									#22
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The best map IMO that we can be in is with 2 large continents... it means more conflict earlier on in the game, lots of REX, and a lot more action for the UFC lot.
Two large-ish continents, a couple of outlying islands for each, and enough water for our proud banana- shaped boats to have a good time on.

(Still think domination, though)

IceElement

	08-07-2002 02:52									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Trip As an honorable Imperalist Knight, I demand destruction on the battlefield over a shamless defeat to space!

Hey Trip (as a fellow Imperialist):
Wouldn't a space launch represent the ultimate imperial gesture?

	08-07-2002 03:24									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Robber Baron Hey Trip (as a fellow Imperialist): Wouldn't a space launch represent the ultimate imperial gesture?

Once the rest of the world is entirely under our control, then I can wholeheartedy agree with that.

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Although I wont argue for any form of victory untill we can actuall look and choose (we are far from that now).. id like to say the "fun" factor isnt as big as ya might think.

First.. i think Conquest is Anti-Climatic. Its not like conquering Russias miserable 3 size 2 cities is amazingly fun, is it? Its like squishing a bug.

And, this being a demo game, we wont be playing the last dozen turns of our game in a row, and even then we will still have to coordinate ministers and the president and the people and what not. There is just so much work and communication to be done that most of the fun of the game will be in the boards, not in the SAV file.

I think the matter of how fun the victory type is is of no consequence in this Democracy game. Its more important we have fun here, in the forums, ARGUING over our goals. That is what this is all about, right?