09-07-2002 23:50									#1
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Remember me and my Imperialism scen?

Well I made fine progress these weeks but my inability of drawing and working with pictures striked again. So sorry for bothering again but I've (hopefully) one final request for you scenario creators out there. As I said one time I'm doing an Imperialism scen dedicated to Africa, Asia and especially a spotlight on Europe.

So to the point of my request: I've attached the flag of Slovakia. In this area they struggled to get an independent state from Austria-Hungary but also participated in various wars together with the Austrians. So I intend to represent this ethnic group with a unit for their own. The problem is a found a suitable shield but was unable to resize it so I can put it in use for a unit shield. Therefore I ask you if someone could cut the shield out of the flag and convert it so it is usable as a unitshield? I hope somebody can help me.

thx in advance
markus

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	09-07-2002 23:56									#2
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Slovakians?
Fighting for independance?

	09-07-2002 23:57									#3
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ups forget to attach
sorry

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	10-07-2002 00:22									#4
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Well just for your identification Heresson:

During the First World War Slovakians fought alongside the Austrians but the majority deserted and joined the Russians in their quest to get independent. Later in the war they even formed an independent Slovakian army in Paris with their own commanders. So I think they are important enough for being mentioned.

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	10-07-2002 00:39									#5
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Yeah, the mighty Slovak, Romanian, and Serbian armies began their magnanimous wars of liberation/independence/conquest... after the Hungarian army surrendered to the promise of Wilson's self-determination.

*vomit*

	10-07-2002 04:10									#6
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I have no bad feelings about Slovakians, their language except fot Byelorussian is the closest of alt to Polish,
but their army... their independance.. How many men consisted of their army? 15?
One time I'll agree (partaially) with the Magyear monster above. Creation of Slovakia in borders that it has was
not quite right for Hungarians. Slovakia has no historical borders, so I see no reason why south of what today is Slovakia was given to it. As well as the case of Spisz, Orawa and Czadca (not minding Zaolzie) was very very unfair for Poles. I see Bohemians as the ones to balme here, as Slovakians themselves wouldn't be able to do anything.

	10-07-2002 08:23									#7
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quote: Magyear monster

	10-07-2002 11:29									#8
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Msipelling. Magyar.

	10-07-2002 12:58									#9
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I don't care about the spelling. I mispell words all the time. I was laughing at the monster refrence.

	10-07-2002 20:14									#10
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I know, I know.
Put smiley doesn't fit You well.
Perhaps would be better...

	11-07-2002 00:07									#11
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Actually, I think this one fits my interests best:

	11-07-2002 02:27									#12
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hey! I'm the Pole and Armenian here!
You can't love money more than I do!

	11-07-2002 10:18									#13
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Hmm...
* St Leo dusts off his memory
If I remember my stereotypes correctly, a half-Pole/half-Armenian could become even cheaper by converting to Judaism.
That's about enough of this.

	11-07-2002 15:10									#14
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I know of a Czech legion, but a Slovakian one?

If it is the same, then the laughs are ill-advised, this legion was indeed tough, in fact, after the great war, they, 20,000 strong, seized portions of the Russian raillines during the civil war there, even at one time getting thier hands on the White Russian's treasury.

	11-07-2002 15:25									#15
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StLeo,
there is a Polish proverb that says;
A Jew can mislead (cheat out or whatever) 5 Poles,
but Armenian can mislead 5 Jews.
Oh, and I'm o more than a quater Armenian.

	11-07-2002 22:49									#16
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Well Chris you're right. The Czech legion was strong and together with the Slovakian one which was formed around 1917 they had approximately 340.000 men. They fought bravely and accomplished many victories on the east front. I've read this in a book a few days ago and so I got the idea to represent this legion with a unit for their own.

	12-07-2002 01:05									#17
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Obviously. Slovakians wouldn't be able to do anything themselves.

	12-07-2002 08:03									#18
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quote: Obviously. Slovakians wouldn't be able to do anything themselves.

	12-07-2002 08:43									#19
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...I drew these. I don't know if they're too plain, but they were the closest I could get to the image in the flag. Take your pick between "Lopsided" on the left and "Frail" on the right.

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	12-07-2002 08:44									#20
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Central European chauvanism. The cause of so many wars. So few scenarios.

	12-07-2002 09:59									#21
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say tech, was that a rant about East Central European chauvinism, about the many wars it cause or the lack of scenarios? It's pretty hard to tell, because after each comma you added a new reproach

	12-07-2002 10:23									#22
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Rant? No, it was a droll, ironic rejoinder respecting the ethnic stereotyping rampant on a forum designed for discussion of scenarios. Now, your sig... There's a rant!

	12-07-2002 12:40									#23
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Oh thank you very much Mr. Oobir they look nice both of them.

Anyway I've no idea why somebody might find it very funny if I try to mention achievements of smaller states (as I've also want to include the Polish Legion, Bulgarians and Romanians).

The common scens only cope the bigger and more important nations in this particularly period I thought it might be interesting to cope also smaller nations even it's only with two or three units.

Well as I always say:
Different nations different cultures different people.

	12-07-2002 12:47									#24
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There is no "Central Europe"
There's just Great Poland
(Obviously on the north of Carpaths that is.

	12-07-2002 14:52									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson There is no "Central Europe" There's just Great Poland (Obviously on the north of Carpaths that is.

I have a Polish friend who almost had a fit when I referred to Poland as "East European". "No! It's Central Europe I tells ya!"

You Poles are so sensitive.

	12-07-2002 18:06									#26
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It is Central Europe, and even Germans tend to call it East Europe. How ignorant

tech, which line exactly?

	12-07-2002 19:03									#27
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Why Boromir's of course! He was the most extreme example of greater Gondorian chauvinism. The so-called "White Tower" is nothing more than a symbol of the oppression of the legitimate aspirations of the Orcish peoples.

	12-07-2002 19:55									#28
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maybe it's misspelledand should be "white power"

	12-07-2002 23:09									#29
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East is bad. Just look at Russia...!

	12-07-2002 23:29									#30
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East is good. Look at the east coast.