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Inverse Icarus
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flying too low to the ground
May 2001
time: 00:20
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Its hard to say which one was the United States' biggest mistake, as we have made a few large ones in our day.
I'm compelled to say Clinton and his minions not taking out Osama when they had the chance, but thats just personal. thousands of lives doesn't qualify as the greatest blunder.
as soem of you have said, the A-Bombs weren't really neccessary for finishing off japan, but i still dont consider that the largest mistake, simply because it had benefits for our nation, although horrific on its own.
after seeing what happened with nukes in japan, the entire world saw how horiffic they were, and no one really wanted war to come to that. The Cold War could have been a lot worse if no one had "tested" a nuke in the field, if no one had seen the level of destruction that resulted from the blasts, the effects on human biomaterial.
slavery is obviously unjust and immoral, but I believe it aided our country greatly in the early years (there was a thread i got flamed for a while ago, dont flame me again  ), so I cant really count it as the greatest mistake.
Taking the civil war to resolve the issue of slavery IS a large blunder, but i believe it had to come down to that.
America allowing the unfair peace deals after WWI? They didn't have much of a say, after all France was ranting most of the peace talks, and i believe they even wanted Germany broken up (my history is getting hazy now, just yell if im wrong).
Waiting so long to join the Allies in WW2 was a bit of a blunder, probably could have ended it quicker and may have saved millions of lives (soldiers and nazi genodidees).
So it comes down to this. I think the Greatest Mistake in American History has to be every useless "insurrection" into a country we had no reason to be in. Somalia. Nam. Korea. etc. The Cold War and the policies of Brinkmanship and the destruction of communism because of half-assed "domino theories" does not justify all the american casualities in those wars. in both cases, it was a CIVIL war, and we honestly had no right to be there. We just did it because Russia was there with open "arms" 
I may have to start anothe thread on this, but I'd like to hear what a Russian (who lived in the USSR) felt about american policies, american nuclear weapons, truman doctine, etc.
I'll probably make that a thread tomorrow. whatever.
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Sloth
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Yeah Mussolini was the biggest...in particular racial laws against jews.
but also Berlusconi...is a giant blunder IMHO
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Comrade Tassadar
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Pardon me for any atrocities that I shall commit, but this post really bugged me.
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we are hated because every1 is jealous of our supremecy. |
That's what we always say when someone says America is hated. The excuse is getting so old...
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When we were fighting the Russkies they were the bad guys, they invaded small nations and we defended them by sending them suplies. |
We also overturned democratic government and replaced them with military dictators which opress their people because the democratically elected presidents were beginning to show favortism in the Soviet Union. Or for whatever other reasons we needed.
We aren't the goody doers that we think we are. And the Soviets werent completly evil, despite what we think.
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Now those supplies are used against us because we are the big scary superpower, |
Yeah. But you do have to remember, we created these knowing full well that they would become terrorists. We unleashed the weapon at our own risk, just because we didnt like the Soviet Union. And now were getting burned for it and frankly I'm not that surprised.
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1. Give them what they want (Death to America, death to freedom, establishment of supreme Muslim theocracies worldwide) |
We didn't seem to care about other countries (Mainly African) becoming Muslim theocracies, so why do we care now? Maybe because they wont fire on the Soviet Union, but this time they will us.
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option 2 is the only logical option. |
Kill "them" all? "Them" wouldn't be muslims, would they?
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:20
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Originally posted by Adalbertus
Ned, may I remind you that the thirty years war costed a third of Germany's population (war actions + spread of diseases)? |
Yeah, that was bad too. Once upon a time, there also was a fellow name Atilla, and then there was that bloke name Tamerlame. Both were walking nightmares.
But WWII was the worst in history for loss of life and the deliberate destruction of civilian populations.
Last edited by Ned on 13-07-2002 at 08:39
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Zevico
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Melbourne
Apr 2002
time: 15:20
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Russians were quite cynical of their government. There was a Russian joke about it.
"A Russian guy walks onto the train to get to work and sees his friend reading Pravda. But he is confused when he notices that his friend isr eading it upside down. 'Why are you reading it upside down?' He asks his friend.
'To make more sense out of it.'
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