13-11-2002 23:36									#331
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Just my two cents... if austria was beaten fair and square then she's ripe for the pickin's... turn her over to AI unfortunately... it would be nice though if someone could come in and make it less of a steamroll though.

	13-11-2002 23:58									#332
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quote: Originally posted by Alibaster Just my two cents... if austria was beaten fair and square then she's ripe for the pickin's... turn her over to AI unfortunately... it would be nice though if someone could come in and make it less of a steamroll though.

I agree 100%, and I stand to gain from AI control! But think about it who would want to play Auastria now? That is what Darius and I debated in our PM's back and forth yesterday. And the last thing he and I wanted was for this thing to bogg down again or die.

	14-11-2002 03:02									#333
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Agreed, I would be all for someone playing if someone was crazy enough to take them.

	14-11-2002 13:59									#334
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Yup, Austria is in my opinion too much of a factor to be just ripped apart Besides I’m worried you might get out a little bit too powerful after you shared Austrian provinces among you

Spain votes for a neutral Austria (let the AI play if further) or let’s find another man

	14-11-2002 15:22									#335
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Just so you know, Russia, Prussia, and France were all going to attack Austria anyway, even with a human player. They could not possibly have survived such an onslaught, so a human vs. AI is not much of an issue, only a matter of how long they last.

Perhaps I should clarify, the reason I said what I said wasn't to say we should wait, my point was that no one will want the civ. No one will want the civ, and meanwhile I will absolutely not accept just having the AI take over and keep peace with it, so the only real option is to partition it.

	14-11-2002 18:47									#336
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quote: Originally posted by Darius871 Just so you know, Russia, Prussia, and France were all going to attack Austria anyway, even with a human player. They could not possibly have survived such an onslaught, so a human vs. AI is not much of an issue, only a matter of how long they last. Perhaps I should clarify, the reason I said what I said wasn't to say we should wait, my point was that no one will want the civ. No one will want the civ, and meanwhile I will absolutely not accept just having the AI take over and keep peace with it, so the only real option is to partition it.

I agree with Darius, if this PBEM boggs down Im gone. I hate bogged down PBEM's. And this Scenario requires extensive diplomacy, if the Austrians had done that ,this might not have happened. No accusations here just the facts. So we have a less than desireable situation because CIVFAN dropped and IMHO this is the only way to continue and save the PBEM.

	14-11-2002 22:02									#337
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Galvatron you play Austria, I think you're removed from the situation enough to play with Austria's best interests in mind.

	15-11-2002 02:20									#338
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Sounds like a good idea.

	15-11-2002 03:15									#339
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Its Bump time, we going to play or talk. I dont have a problem with Galvatron playing if that is what he wants to do, I just want to get moving!

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	15-11-2002 04:16									#340
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Yup, Ok I can play Austria too on the condition that you will not declare war on me in the next turn an ripe me apart. Well if you do, Spain will declare war to all of you

	15-11-2002 04:53									#341
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Casablanca captured.

	15-11-2002 04:55									#342
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And I forgot the save:

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	15-11-2002 08:45									#343
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quote: Originally posted by Galvatron Yup, Ok I can play Austria too on the condition that you will not declare war on me in the next turn an ripe me apart. Well if you do, Spain will declare war to all of you

I might be convinced to hold off but the AI already attacked France and he attacked back and Prussia already started a war so it may be difficult to get them to stop................

	15-11-2002 11:36									#344
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Chancellor von Chokenblatt would like to anounce that Prussia will crush Spain like the worthless insect it is.

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	15-11-2002 11:43									#345
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Well there still will be with France, so it seems pointless for Prussia to make peace and waste the opportunity.

	15-11-2002 16:20									#346
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I think Im going to be nice and hold off attacking for at least 5 or 6 turns, that way Galvatron will have time to get prepared. Heaven forbid if he had to deal with a sneak attack. That wouldn't be very polite.

Galvy you got one turn, and in the mean time I assume you are going to offer me something to keep me from attacking.

	17-11-2002 01:17									#347
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BUMP!

I believe it is Great Britians Turn is it not?

	17-11-2002 21:49									#348
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Give me a min... putting on the final touches.

	18-11-2002 02:32									#349
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quote: Originally posted by Alibaster Give me a min... putting on the final touches.

Ya OK, I just want to remind everyone that I admitted upfront to being an atrocious BUMPer

	18-11-2002 03:14									#350
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Takes a little fire on the behind to get moving sometimes.

Not many notable events... eager to see how events unfold in Austria. Hamburg will be evacuated next turn.

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	18-11-2002 19:32									#351
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Liberation of Austria Going Ahead as Planned
German forces have occupied Prague and Munich. It is expected that Budapest, Kosice and Salzburg will be liberated soon.

Kanzeller Expresses Regret Over Spanish Idiocy
Herr ReichsKanzeller Chokenblatt has expressed his regret that Spain must be crushed, but due to Spanish arrogance and needless support of the outlaw Hungarian state Spanish independence can no longer be tolerated. Herr Chokenblatt is quoted as saying "I congradulate Napoleon on the capture of Madrid now for I will most likely not speak to him again before it falls. It is a matter of weeks, not months or years, before Madrid flies the red, white and blue."

and the turn:

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	18-11-2002 19:39									#352
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Galvatron

You are still playing Austria correct? My suggestion is to separate playing the two, dont do something Spain might regret just because Austria is going down the tubes. Just a friendly suggestion before this gets out of hand.

	18-11-2002 19:45									#353
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	19-11-2002 02:35									#354
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Reinforced Budapest and Kosice. Counterattacked at Olmutz and Vienna. I will not let you take over Austria that easy. I've no intention to bring Spain into it.

Furthermore there is a very good understanding between Spain and France so there will be no Napoleon capture Madrid. And Choke I've no idea why you are overly aggressive against me but I can assure you that should you start a war against Spain, France will not help you but will surely be on my side in defending.

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	19-11-2002 02:50									#355
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"Ok I can play Austria too on the condition that you will not declare war on me in the next turn an ripe me apart. Well if you do, Spain will declare war to all of you"

Why did you say this then???

	19-11-2002 08:32									#356
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quote: Originally posted by Choke "Ok I can play Austria too on the condition that you will not declare war on me in the next turn an ripe me apart. Well if you do, Spain will declare war to all of you" Why did you say this then???

Choke, I got a feeling Galvy came to his senses.......

	19-11-2002 11:32									#357
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Me too, but I wanted him to understand why I said what I said.

	19-11-2002 15:48									#358
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quote: Originally posted by Choke "Ok I can play Austria too on the condition that you will not declare war on me in the next turn an ripe me apart. Well if you do, Spain will declare war to all of you" Why did you say this then???

Hmm good question? Ok and here is the answer:

Come on, do you really believed I would declare war to all the other players? How long would I last: one or two turns?

So to sum it up:
It was a Choke..ähh..joke. It was a joke. It was a joke. Don't be so serious. "Happy people, celebrate good times, come on"

	19-11-2002 15:51									#359
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Ok, ok I thought it was serious, in fact I thought Spain, Britain and Austria were all going to attack France, me and Russia.

	19-11-2002 19:48									#360
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Bucharest Captured! As the Russians decide to join the feeding frenzy in Austria the ancient capitol of the Bulgars was captured and liberated from the corrupt and inept Hapsburg so called Empire.

Russian commander Ivan Knapzov called the seige a pushover. The corruption in the Hapsburg regime is leading to total chaos in production for the Austrian nation. Im sure they have a few tricks up there sleeve but it is only a matter of time before they are completely engulfed.

A secret trade mission delivered St Petersburg manufactors to the Swedish capitol of Stockholm. Lots of $. And the great Russian empire is now at a trade surplus thanks to the smugglers efforts.

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