15-07-2002 01:07									#31
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker No

No

	15-07-2002 01:08									#32
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	15-07-2002 01:14									#33
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This was one helluva cool election-thread!
First, everyone says: "Vote for Sir Ralph".
Then skywalker freaks out, followed by tass, and the rest going bananas. One by one...
And the most spectacular of it all: I haven't even voted yet!
Hmm...


Ralph: Sir? As not being a member of a party, would a membership of the independent Thinkers Guild suit you as an independent individual?

	15-07-2002 01:36									#34
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ThePlagueRat eh? Are you the one who infected my mother with Bubonic? cause if you are that son of a *****, Im gonna kick your ass!

Kman
[nothing personal, The plague has just wiped out half my family back in the gehttos of Apolytonia where I live, Im just venting some steam]

	15-07-2002 01:58									#35
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quote: is there really a point?

No

	15-07-2002 02:28									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Kramerman ThePlagueRat eh? Are you the one who infected my mother with Bubonic? cause if you are that son of a *****, Im gonna kick your ass!

No I'm innocent! I only use Black Death.
(like we did in Bergen, 1349AD)

Oh yeah, I usually hide in a cargo hold on a caravel.
When I disembark, the big cat eat me up. Saying "You look like food". He gets infected and goes home to the owners, who pet him, and get black spots on their faces... Then we all die.
Well, I have been reincarnated, no worries.

	15-07-2002 02:36									#37
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Sorry, but bubonic plague IS the black death!!

	15-07-2002 03:25									#38
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If I find you, you bastard I'll kill you! Ah, whats the point, you will only reincarnate (respawn, as us 1st person shooters like to call it!). Besides, your bloody body would probably just infect me with plague and I would probably spread it to my fellow slum dwellers in the ghetto and kill us all.

	15-07-2002 03:49									#39
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quote: Originally posted by ThePlagueRat Ralph: Sir? As not being a member of a party, would a membership of the independent Thinkers Guild suit you as an independent individual?

The Thinkers Guild is an interesting citizen group. But don't you consider me too much of a warmonger for it? The other members might complain.

	15-07-2002 07:27									#40
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Wow, i was going to say something like, go independents! vote Sir Ralph! But that'd be kind of useless at this point. Anyway, in response to Ralph on the thinker's guild (which i'm in): Civ is about fun, fun usually comes when you win, the way this game is set up right now, winning comes by beating down other civs. Therefore it follows that the fundamental nature of Civ demands warmongering leaders for Apolyton. Logic says: vote Sir Ralph.

(logic being like thinking... i guess...)

	15-07-2002 08:34									#41
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I've got a question for the future Minister (whoever it may be). What do you think of the City of Iron idea? It's this thread. Should we build over in the jungle? I don't think it would really be much different than our current cities.

EDIT: Er, what does everyone think? Current minister? Candidates? Anyone?

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	15-07-2002 12:34									#42
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The next settler will build the Blue city. After it, Case Pink/Plan Eagle will be unleashed. And only after this, the next 2 settlers can be built. The attacking army will, no doubt, uncover the black spots on the map and check, if America has indeed no iron. If so, one of the next settlers should secure the jungle iron. If not (America has iron and we're able to get it), time does not press so much, although I'd say we secure a second source, since one might deplete. This might be either the iron in the jungle, or the one in the French mountains (if we can settle there, that is). We should discover more of the map, before we meet this decision.

	15-07-2002 13:57									#43
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As I have said before with the dyes I dont think that we should build in inhospitible terrian, however fi the public works minister and the president would rather have a city and the jungle cleared (taking a long time) instead of a colony, which we could expand our borders towards later, I will build a city there. But I would rather have a colony there and expand towards later!

	15-07-2002 14:14									#44
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Where are you Jonny? I haven't seen you since way back on the first page !!!

quote: Therefore it follows that the fundamental nature of Civ demands warmongering leaders for Apolyton. Logic says: vote Sir Ralph.

And the UFC doesn't supoport violence I guess??!!!!

	15-07-2002 15:00									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Will 5001 As I have said before with the dyes I dont think that we should build in inhospitible terrian, however fi the public works minister and the president would rather have a city and the jungle cleared (taking a long time) instead of a colony, which we could expand our borders towards later, I will build a city there. But I would rather have a colony there and expand towards later!

You have a point with no doubt, this empire needs productive cities. And I'm strongly against sending the next settler to the iron, because we need another productive city (The Blue City).

However, when it comes to resources and there is no alternative in better land (pray, that the Americans have iron), we have to secure them, or the AI civs will. I do not like colonies much and see them as very rare exception. Mainly because they do not hinder the AI civs to steal the resource by plopping a city nearby, especially when it's so far away like the jungle iron. And we still would have to connect it with a long road through the jungle.

Let's first discover the map a bit more, before we meet decisions. We've got a bit time for a good decision, until the settlers will be built, so no need for speculations now. The gods gave us horses, and who has horses, can gain access to iron too, by force.

As a sidenote: If the Americans have no other iron, I would be not surprised, if they plopp a city in the jungle even before our attack starts. In this case, we would probably be enforced to raze it, because it will grow slowly in the poor terrain and it's unlikely, that it reaches size 2 very soon, so that it can be taken.

	15-07-2002 15:00									#46
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I voted for Sir Ralph.
Jonny's good, but I believe Ralph is even better at this stuff. He has my full support - at least for the time being.

	15-07-2002 20:49									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Will 5001 And the UFC doesn't supoport violence I guess??!!!!

Well of course they do. I just felt like justifying the independent candidate with a rediculous logical proof.

	15-07-2002 23:06									#48
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Sir Ralph is obviously the best candidate. He's up their (in terms of ability and prestige) with Trip, Timeline, Uber, and Ninot.

	15-07-2002 23:47									#49
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I totally agree, but I still confused atwhy he went for this post rather than a more important one, where he would have some sort of competition, because lets face it, Jonny and I never had a chance.

	15-07-2002 23:51									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Guardian Jonny's good, but I believe Ralph is even better at this stuff.

At least mention me, I am in this election, say I am **** or anything!!!

	16-07-2002 00:57									#51
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Will 5001: I think you are a 1st class candidate and if I did not run myself, you would be my clear favorite for this office.

	16-07-2002 01:29									#52
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Thank you Sir Ralph, I would have to say that you really deserve to win by such a huge margin and I encourage all voters to vote for Sir Ralph.

	16-07-2002 01:49									#53
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Will would have bee my secod choice as well, but Sir Ralph has been around a bit longer and has proven himself on multiple levels, one of which was the city spots i case pink (him and nye)

	16-07-2002 14:11									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Will 5001 At least mention me, I am in this election, say I am **** or anything!!!

Sorry Will. You're... umm... a great candidate who can reach far and achieve much. It's just your bad luck that Sir Ralph was also running...

	17-07-2002 01:59									#55
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Thank you, I take that as a great compliment coming from a DIA member like yourself. As I said before, I have no worries about Ralph winning the race because I do consider him the best man for the job, he will make a much better IE minister than I could make right now.

	17-07-2002 02:23									#56
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Those dumb UFC partiers act like those Facist republicans do here in the U.S.

	18-07-2002 01:49									#57
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I guess the election has ended now; thankyou to Jonny and Ralph for making this a worthwhile election. In fact this elction has topped the threds some times and the campaign thread was well viewed, and was replied to often. Sir Ralph fully deserves his victory and well done to Jonny for his second place. Well, I am now going back to the life of a normal UFC party member, as I said in the Jungle gazette, until next elections...

	18-07-2002 04:14									#58
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Thanks to all who voted for me for the confidence you put on me. I will spend all my skills and knowledge for our Empire. Also thanks to my competitors for fairness.

Will 5001: Because your positions are very close to mine, I would like to see you as my official deputy for this term and hope, you agree.

	18-07-2002 07:22									#59
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Congratulations to Sir Ralph on his victory.

And thanks to both of my competitors for keeping this a nice, clean, fair election.

	18-07-2002 23:37									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Will 5001: Because your positions are very close to mine, I would like to see you as my official deputy for this term and hope, you agree.

I wholeheartedly accept your offer of a deputy post at the IE office !!