13-07-2002 02:59									#1
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This is the election for our Minister of Science.

Query:
Who should be our next Minister of Science?

Candidates:
EmperorMagnus(UFC)
civman2000 (DIA)
JvdB2002 (IND)

End:
5 Days, July 16th 2002

	13-07-2002 03:17									#2
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Abstain.

EDIT:

Might as well give a reason. Civman's platform is a bit vague and i never heard a word from the IND.

what knowledge path do you recommend? (UFC said dive for republic)

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	13-07-2002 07:58									#3
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quote: Civman's platform is a bit vague

1. DO NOT CAPITALIZE THE "c"!!
2. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=55530
3. I say we should go for republic, but that may be pretty far off at our current science rate (0) and, as I mentioned in my campaign last month, my opinions are not very important, I do what the people want to do.

	13-07-2002 08:01									#4
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Mental note: never EEEVVVEEERRR capitolize the 'c'........

	13-07-2002 08:48									#5
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ok, 2 people lost my votes so far, and unless JvdB2002 sways me i'm abstaining.

	13-07-2002 10:33									#6
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I never forget a funny man...

Kman

	13-07-2002 13:35									#7
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX ok, 2 people lost my votes so far, and unless JvdB2002 sways me i'm abstaining.

Never mind Uber, it's not like one vote will make the difference anyway..

	13-07-2002 14:30									#8
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Well, the campaign thread didn't answer any questions, apart from civman2000, who said he wouln't be able to complete half his term, so I am going with Uber and abstaining unless I hear more policies from EmperorMagnus or JvdB2002 because I can't vote for someone who cannot finish his term.

	13-07-2002 14:37									#9
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I agree completely with Uber and Will.
Abstain.

	13-07-2002 18:31									#10
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EmperorMagnus is on vacation till the 13th, so cannot answer questions, this is all we have:

quote: Unlike war, which must be carefully planned, I believe science is a here and now sort of thing. If elected minister of science, I will focus on what we need at the moment. Work on a skyscraper can not begin if the foundation is unfinished. If we focus on the present rather than the future, we will be able to make better use of our advances later down the road. If elected, I favor a beeline to the republic in order to boost our science and economy, followed by military research spree. Decimate America to the point of extinction, then offer peace in exchange for every tech they have plus some gtp

That being said, while confident in civman's abilities, I cannot vote for someone who won't/can't finish the term, and need answers from the other candidates, so abstain.

	13-07-2002 18:36									#11
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Timeline, this is why I was hesitant about running!

	13-07-2002 20:25									#12
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quote: Originally posted by civman2000 Timeline, this is why I was hesitant about running!

LOL. Yes I see that.

I would hate to think you are incapable of doing the job here civman, but that is simply not the case.

The DIA has nominated you because you are the most qualified person for this job. If, once elected, you want to appoint a deputy advisor, such as EmperorMagnus, that would be fine. The elected President could then allow him to take over once you leave, thereby keeping everything moving smoothly.

This shouldn't be a problem, and as an experianced member of government, you would be the best person to oversee things and lead us in the area of science.

	13-07-2002 20:33									#13
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This is not the place or time to discuss advisors and thier uses. Plus, you know my feelings on this Timeline...this is the exact situation I was talking of...or could become so, anyway...

The very fact that the one VOTED upon is not the one who will FINISH should be taken into consideration. civman MAY be the most qualified, hard to tell with Magnus gone and nary a word from Jvd, but his absence for a substantial time is worth considering.

	13-07-2002 20:51									#14
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Not much of a choice then is it?

All I am saying is that through the use of assistants, we can maximize our leaders, and get the best out of all of them.

	13-07-2002 21:34									#15
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And whether those assistants sould be allowed to take control of thier Ministers position in his absence is something that should be voted upon, not assumed. That is all I am saying.

Assistants to help report are a great idea, to run the position without public say is another matter.

edit: typo city

	13-07-2002 23:01									#16
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DIA: Power to the people (that we like)

	14-07-2002 04:39									#17
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Civman has been a good Minister in both the Civ2 and Civ3 Demo Games. My vote's for him.

	14-07-2002 22:33									#18
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I though EmperorMagnus would be able to post on the 13th or 14th, I am abstaining still

	14-07-2002 22:33									#19
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I have a question, Do you support increasing the science rate so that we can do our own research, or going on with what we are doing, if so, for how long?

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	14-07-2002 22:39									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Will 5001 I have a question for all candidates, do you all want to go for the republic ASAP?

both of them said yes so far...

	14-07-2002 22:41									#21
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One of them is going to win anyway. It's not like abstaining will make none of them win. Therefore, vote for the one with (in your minds) the least against him.

	14-07-2002 22:41									#22
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Sorry, I have just realised that so I have changed the question!!!

	14-07-2002 22:45									#23
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker One of them is going to win anyway. It's not like abstaining will make none of them win. Therefore, vote for the one with (in your minds) the least against him.

Abstaining will allow me to b1tch at whoever IS elected.

	15-07-2002 01:28									#24
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Thats the spirit! *****ing and complaining is what makes the world go round. Things not going your way? Just *****, its the Ameri... uh... Apolytonian way!

	15-07-2002 14:41									#25
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civman it is.