15-07-2002 20:27									#1
	D.G. #2: Settings discussion Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Okay, this has been tossed about in other threads. BUT - I hereby open the talks for the next session of our democratic civving.

Ideas abound, here are some of what we need to decide upon:

1) Essentials
. . . a) game version
. . . b) map settings
. . . c) other settings

2) Preferences
. . . a) rules of play (e.g. space victory only)
. . . b) civ color and name
. . . c) leader name
. . . d) ?

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(EDIT) Current tally (as of 7/16 ~6pm)
1) Essentials
a) MGE - 12
. . 2.42 - 1 maybe
b) huge - 2
. . large - 9
. . random - 5
. . continents - 5
. . archipelago - 1
. . real world - 2
c) 7 civs, deity, raging hordes - 9
. . weenie settings - 0

2) Preferences
a) Must use representative gov't - 3
. . Space victory only - 4
b) white - 1
. . green - 1
. . blue - 1
. . yellow - 2
. . lt. blue - 2
. . orange - 1
. . purple - 1
Civ name
. . Banana Republic - 2+
. . United Apolyton - 1
c)
d) Limited save file access - 6

Last edited by Marquis de Sodaq on 16-07-2002 at 21:29

	15-07-2002 20:32									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq 1) Essentials . . . a) game version . . . b) map settings . . . c) other settings

a) MGE
b) large map, I'd like a real world map, but am okay with random
c) 7 civs, raging hordes, deity

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq 2) Preferences . . . a) rules of play (e.g. space victory only) . . . b) civ color and name . . . c) leader name . . . d) ?

a) must use democracy gov't once we have the tech (let's challenge ourselves!)
b) light blue or yellow

	16-07-2002 01:21									#3
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I vote for the essentials to be ... MGE, Huge Map,7 civs and top babs setting and top level of difficulty! As for preferences I do not have any so I will go with the flow!

	16-07-2002 01:21									#4
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1.
A: MGE
B: large map, random, continents
C:raging hordes, diety

2.
A:I don't know
B:blue, Mingapulco,
C:I think leader would suffice, were not really going to pay to much attention to what the computer thinks the name is anyways


EDIT:
D:lets push for space this time

Last edited by H Tower on 16-07-2002 at 05:24

	16-07-2002 01:36									#5
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1.
A: MGE
B: large map, random
C:raging hordes, diety

We should give ourselves a bigger challenge then in the first game, we won that one too easy.

	16-07-2002 02:51									#6
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1.a:MGE
b: large, random
c: raging, deity
2. a: like sodaq siad, let's challenge our selves. Must go republic when we get it, same for democracy, cannot start a war (but we can make demands to antagonize the other civs).
b: green, Martian Empire
c: The Emperor (title The name Emperor)

	16-07-2002 03:27									#7
	Re: D.G. #2: Settings discussion Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq 1) Essentials . . . a) game version . . . b) map settings . . . c) other settings

a) MGE
b) Large,Random , Continents
c) Deity,Raging

quote: 2) Preferences . . . a) rules of play (e.g. space victory only) . . . b) civ color and name . . . c) leader name . . . d) ?

a) I would like us to push for space
b) any colour or name is fine for me but some people are colour blind and may only be able to see certain colours.
c) Leaders name, not important to me
d) I would like it played the same as we did last time, with the president only giving the game file to ministers who then pole the people and advise the president.

	16-07-2002 05:13									#8
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Same as Hydey for me.

	16-07-2002 05:22									#9
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i like hydey's comment about only a limited distribution of the game file

	16-07-2002 07:58									#10
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perhaps a normal poll would be useful..

1a) MGE
1b) same as hydey
1c) whatever

2a) same as sodaq
2b) same as sodaq
2c) whatever
2d) same as hydey

	16-07-2002 16:16									#11
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quote: 1) Essentials . . . a) game version . . . b) map settings . . . c) other settings

a) civ2.42 would be nice, but MGE will do
b) earth-map/large continent map
c) Deity/Raging hordes

quote: 2) Preferences . . . a) rules of play (e.g. space victory only) . . . b) civ color and name . . . c) leader name . . . d) ?

a) prepare for space victory(and maybe after launch start global conquest )
b) purple...name->just make it a noble one
c) ???

Shade

	16-07-2002 17:17									#12
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1a) MGE
1b) Gigamap if possible. If not, 80x125.
1c) 7 civs, Raging, Deity

2a) Don't care
2b) Orange-- the Banana Republic.
2c) Don't care
2d) Limit access to save file to president and ministers (and newspaper reporters).

	16-07-2002 18:17									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov 2b) Orange-- the Banana Republic.

Why not yellow? I do like the civ name idea, tho.

	16-07-2002 18:19									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Darkness' Edge perhaps a normal poll would be useful..

I didn't start it as a poll for fear that "other" and a post would end up being the most common vote - which would defeat the purpose of having a poll. I'll tally and edit the first post to update a summary.

	16-07-2002 18:24									#15
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1a) I don't care, (my MGE works now after 2 weeks of HELL.)
1b) look to the map to the bottom.
1c) 7 civs, Raging, Deity.

2a) too early, wait until we meet a civ or 2 (but I like idea.)
2b) White, same name as last time.
2c) Same as last time.
2d) What Vlad Antlerkov said.

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	16-07-2002 18:28									#16
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	16-07-2002 18:32									#17
	Re: D.G. #2: Settings discussion Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq 1) Essentials . . . a) game version

AFAIK MGE is more challenging so I'll go form MGE

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq . . . b) map settings

Large map; archipelago mdium land masses

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq . . . c) other settings

7 civs, Raging, Deity

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq 2) Preferences . . . a) rules of play (e.g. space victory only)

go for space!!!

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq . . . b) civ color and name

Banana Republic (yellow of course!)

quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq . . . c) leader name

El Senor Banana


... and we should go directly for Republic and remain in republic... otherwise what kind of Banana Republic would we be?

	17-07-2002 02:16									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Messer Niccolò ... and we should go directly for Republic and remain in republic... otherwise what kind of Banana Republic would we be?

Good idea

Shall we limit ourselves even further by building no wonders?

	17-07-2002 02:55									#19
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please not achipeligo again, i've seen enough of the superclad strat

	17-07-2002 04:35									#20
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

1) Essentials
. . . a) game version - MPE
. . . b) map settings - Custom. I'll be glad to build one to whatever style is decided. But I can add navigable rivers, fair start positions, balanced resources, etc. I don't plan to play in this round (too much to do these next few months) . . . c) other settings - Raging Hordes and deity, at least

2) Preferences
. . . a) rules of play (e.g. space victory only) - Perhaps specify that we must become a Democracy by a set year (1800?)
. . . b) civ color and name - White Orange and Yellow seem to stand out the best; the name shouldn't be "Apolytonia" or a variant of it.
. . . c) leader name - "Fearless Leader" seemed good
. . . d) Decide beforehand if there will be a "constitution" or not. A listing of the general rules might suffice

	17-07-2002 04:45									#21
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Just wondering, but why doesn't anyone play Test of Time. Thats a civ2 right? I only have MGE and earlier versions, but Im just wondering whats wrong with test of time?

	17-07-2002 05:41									#22
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quote: Originally posted by MustPost Just wondering, but why doesn't anyone play Test of Time. Thats a civ2 right? I only have MGE and earlier versions, but Im just wondering whats wrong with test of time?

are you sid meier by any chance? you mean you want me to buy another version of civ2? weren't four enough?

that's one of the reason's for me anyways, i couldn't stand the idea of having to buy a fifth installment to civ2. and all the reviews i saw about it were less than stellar.

	17-07-2002 13:46									#23
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I think a ToT Fantasy Democracy game would be pretty fun.

	17-07-2002 17:07									#24
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'cept there would be few players, because a good portion of us don't have TOT...

	18-07-2002 03:33									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Patashu I think a ToT Fantasy Democracy game would be pretty fun.

I'm sure you would be better of asking about TOT in the TOT forum.

	18-07-2002 04:47									#26
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Anything is fine with me, just as long as it's different from what we did on the last map (archipelago).

	19-07-2002 15:46									#27
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Firstly large map, continents, raging hoards, diety level, and democracy/republic.... excellent suggestions.

I think not building wonders would present some serious challenges to overall game play, making life a touch more difficult, So i agree with that recommendation as well. However this does present the problem of acquiring wonders through conquest.

I notice one suggestion that hasn't come up yet is the prospect of accelerated start (in terms of technology). I suggest that a starting level of technology should be at say industrialisation, and equiv. level tech.

Although the superclad strategy was most illuminating, I don't think it needs to be repeated. I think the bottom line is, lets get the settings to make the game as challenging as possible.

As for a Civ name, the 'Banana Republic' as perviously suggested has sentimental value. As for the leader name, Boris McNasty rings a bell, but don't know from where....

Cheers, and let the games begun (MUHAHAHAHA)

Ant.

	22-07-2002 18:49									#28
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I like the sound of this so far. FWIW, the Prodigal -Jrabbit likes...

MGE (so my poor little Mac can participate)
Seven Raging Deities
Very Large Non-Archipelago

-- Banana Republic -- an excellent suggestion!!! (How about "Fruit-based" as our Adjective?)
-- No Totalitarianism (if "representative only" that would mean no Monarchy -- a pretty substantial handicap).
-- Shoot For The Stars
-- No Warmongering

-- Possible Leader Names for Banana Republic
Che-Che Rodriguez
Woody Allen
Castro Fruitbat

But as long as we're in MGE, I'll be there.

	22-07-2002 22:24									#29
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1a : Mac edition ? if not, OK for MGE !
1b : huge and random (even if I like playing real world), and rather continent
1c : OK for 7 civs, deity, raging hordes
2a : For a classical challenge : first in AC or at least representative gvnt.
2 b : About tastes and colors...
About name, to maintain their function to bananas, we must avoid to build a "banana republic" (with united fruit paying the government ? )
I like the New Apolynia... monarchy, republic then democracy
2c :
2d : as commonly admitted.