16-07-2002 21:35									#1
	"Palestine" does not exist. Their flag should be removed. Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

There is no country named "Palestine", you should either remove their flag or add the flags of all separatist movements.

The Basques, the Kurds, the Chechens, the FARC, the rebels in Xing-Xian(sp?), Mexican and Peruvian rebels, etc. They all should get flags on Apolyton if the Palestinians got.

	16-07-2002 21:35									#2
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Exactly

	16-07-2002 21:41									#3
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All kinds of institutions which are not "countries" have flags. All kinds of countries which are not officially recognised have flags. Many countries which no longer exist have flags.

I have no problem with the Palestine flag. It is only a flag.

Go on, flame me.

	16-07-2002 21:44									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Eli There is no country named "Palestine", you should either remove their flag or add the flags of all separatist movements. The Basques, the Kurds, the Chechens, the FARC, the rebels in Xing-Xian(sp?), Mexican and Peruvian rebels, etc. They all should get flags on Apolyton if the Palestinians got.

You have to bring that up, don't you?

	16-07-2002 21:47									#5
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Oh, no. ME thread on the Community forum...

	16-07-2002 21:48									#6
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While many communities/organizations have flags, Eli is right. If Palestenian flag is staying, based on some saying it's a country, flag of, for instance, Chechnya should be added. If not, remove the flag of Palestine.

	16-07-2002 21:50									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Alexnm Oh, no. ME thread on the Community forum...

My thoughts exactly. I'm bored of this type of threads.

	16-07-2002 21:51									#8
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Tibet is a choice.

I don't really like where this topic might go. Anyone remember about 4 years ago in the alphacentauri.com forums where someone said Ohio didn't exist? That was funny.

	16-07-2002 21:54									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Tibet is a choice. I don't really like where this topic might go. Anyone remember about 4 years ago in the alphacentauri.com forums where someone said Ohio didn't exist? That was funny.

You have a link to that?

	16-07-2002 21:59									#10
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We're not making this a ME thread. We're making this a *very* clear statement, that either the flag has to be removed, or several others added, otherwise it's pretty clearly not fair.

	16-07-2002 21:59									#11
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No, because those forums went down in October of '98, like the prophecy said they would.

	16-07-2002 22:00									#12
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I want the flag of California!

	16-07-2002 22:01									#13
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Prophecy? Remember sidgames.com ?

	16-07-2002 22:06									#14
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Proserpine, are you a Scot living in London?

	16-07-2002 22:08									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Proserpine All kinds of institutions which are not "countries" have flags. All kinds of countries which are not officially recognised have flags. Many countries which no longer exist have flags.

But these flags dont exist on Apolyton, which is not fair. If being a country is not a prerequisite(sp?) to be part of the "countries" list then the Kurds and the Basques and all those I listed earlier deserve a flag on Apolyton too.

	16-07-2002 22:12									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Prophecy? Remember sidgames.com ?

Yes, this guy named Apocalypse made a thread in that forum exactly a month earlier stating that if silly off topic threads like the I Club continued, the forums would go down. For over a week people went without an official SMAC forum. During the time it was down, I launched my SMAC site The Alpha Centauri Nexus along with information about the down time provided by co-webmaster Rich "Yo Yo Yo Hey" Junack. Beyond Alpha Centauri reported this and got us a lot of traffic. This led to Kunal "whister/kshah" Shah finding the site and recruiting it for Sidgames. When the owo forums came up, everyone called what I posted a prophecy. It is all part of the NIM phemonenom.

	16-07-2002 22:12									#17
	Re: "Palestine" does not exist. Their flag should be removed. Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Eli There is no country named "Palestine", you should either remove their flag or add the flags of all separatist movements.

Well, if you want to do that, the Scotland flag would have to go as well. And then I would be mightily pissed off...

	16-07-2002 22:14									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Prophecy? Remember sidgames.com ?

what was that? an unofficial fan site?

	16-07-2002 22:15									#19
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What Apoc says, while sidgames.com was a nice site... Apoc, nostalgia!

	16-07-2002 22:26									#20
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I say leave it, they will have a country soon enough.

	16-07-2002 22:27									#21
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Sidgames was a site much like Apolyton. They were rivals for a long time. It was a friendly rivalry though.

	16-07-2002 22:34									#22
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Non-Countries on list:

Abu Dhabi (Part of UAE)
Ajman (?)
Åland Islands (Demi-Autonomous part of Finland)
Alderney (?)
American Samoa (US Colony)
Antarctica
Antigua (Part of Antigua and Barbuda)
Aruba (I think...?)
Australian Aboriginies
Azores (Portugal)
Balearic Islands (Spain)
Bouvet Island (?)
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Canary Islands (Spain)
Christmas Island (?)
Cocos Island (?)
Coral Sea Islands (?)
Dubai (Part of UAE)
England (Part of UK)
Europe
Falklands Islands (UK Colony)
Faeröe Islands (Danish Colony)
French Guyana
French Guyana Independentist
French Polynesia
French Southern and Arctic Lands
Fujairah (?)
Greenland (Danish Colony)
Heard & McDonald Islands (?)
Hong Kong (Part of China)
Lord Howe Island (?)
Madeira (Spain)
Marshall Islands (US, I think...?)
Mayotte (?)
Midway Islands (US Colony)
Dutch Antilles
New Caledonia (?)
New Zeeland Maoris
Niue (?)
Norfolk Island (?)
Northern Marianas (?)
Orkney Islands (Part of UK, I think...?)
Pitcairn Island (UK Colony)
Puerto Rico (US Colony)
Sami (Stretches across NO, SE, FI, RU)
Scotland (Part of UK)
Seborga (?)
Sharjah (?)
Sikkim (?)
Somaliland
South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands (?)
Tibet (China)
Tokelau (?)
Tromelin (?)
Umm Al-Quaiwan (?)
UN
US Virgin Islands
Wales (Part of UK)
Wallis & Futuna (?)
Western Sahara

The bold ones are more or less in a similar situation to the palestinians, ie. the flag is associated with some sort of non-recognised state formation.

	16-07-2002 22:52									#23
	Re: Re: "Palestine" does not exist. Their flag should be removed. Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by zulu9812 Well, if you want to do that, the Scotland flag would have to go as well. And then I would be mightily pissed off...

Scotland, like England, is a country, it just isn't an independent nations.

Wales on the other hand is not a country, 'merely' a principality.

	16-07-2002 22:52									#24
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It's only a flag. It just represents a group of people. So unless you're trying to reinforce the belief that they are not a valid group of people and something less, just live and let live. Or do you fear it?

Obviously their are other groups' flags listed that aren't countries, and it's unreasonably to expect that every possible group be liisted. I'm sure it came as a package and they just made the whole list available.

RAH
And we wonder why there is no peace in the ME.

	16-07-2002 22:53									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Snapcase Christmas Island (?)

Its a dependent of Australia, and the flag is not official.

I know, because I used to sport it as my avatar for awhile.

	16-07-2002 22:56									#26
	Re: Re: Re: "Palestine" does not exist. Their flag should be removed. Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Scotland, like England, is a country, it just isn't an independent nations. Wales on the other hand is not a country, 'merely' a principality.

What's the difference? Both Scotland and Wales were independent nations subsumed by England, both have their own assembly. It's just that Wales was subsumed a long time before Scotland was.

	16-07-2002 23:04									#27
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in the word of the great rah: live and let live